[GoldHeart]

Originally Posted by Northern Monkey

I get what you’re saying.With the Westminster stuff there was apparently a list of MP’s who had supposedly sexually harassed and assaulted people but there was stuff like knee touching and asking a woman out to the cinema by text getting conflated with the more serious assaults.Every man accused of any of it may aswell have been a rapist.

The problem with all this MeToo stuff is weeding out the serious crimes from the bull**** and the real ones from the false.It turned into a real witch hunt with people losing jobs for minor stuff and also an MP committing suicide.

This charity stuff seems like much of it is more serious though like the Hollywood Weinstein scandal.
With this Brendan Cox who knows if he just overstepped the mark a little and was too pushy or actually assaulted women.I suppose the courts will have to determine that.

Thankyou!! this is exactly what i've been saying .
It's become ridiculous , and sadly real crimes will be either missed or just treated as "ohhh here we go another allegation" .

[Northern Monkey]

Originally Posted by GoldHeart

Thankyou!! this is exactly what i've been saying .
It's become ridiculous , and sadly real crimes will be either missed or just treated as "ohhh here we go another allegation" .

Yeah that is the danger of all this stuff getting conflated.It will dilute real predatory behaviour.

[Kizzy]

Originally Posted by GoldHeart

Thankyou!! this is exactly what i've been saying .
It's become ridiculous , and sadly real crimes will be either missed or just treated as "ohhh here we go another allegation" .

Isn't that exactly what has happened here? ... It's a witch hunt as there is no evidence or statement to suggest he did anything and yet as NM says here we are ruining the guys life as well as his charity.

I noted too after vickys heartfelt confession that she too has been a victim of some pretty disgusting serious abuse the canned response from you was ...it happens to men too!
Aside from the 'westminster stuff' the 'inappropriate touching' of knees and such it's not so serious if form an MP as a charity employee then... do we have a sliding scale of who is deemed capable of inappropriate behaviour, and the palaces of westminster don't have a HR department anyway?

Should this Knee touching be a reference to Damian Green and Kate Maltby please be aware he is as I stated earlier refusing to acknowledge what he did, and to be clear that is NOT why he lost his job that was for breaking the ministerial code for a totally unrelated issue.

[GoldHeart]

Originally Posted by Kizzy

Isn't that exactly what has happened here? ... It's a witch hunt as there is no evidence or statement to suggest he did anything and yet as NM says here we are ruining the guys life as well as his charity.

I noted too after vickys heartfelt confession that she too has been a victim of some pretty disgusting serious abuse the canned response from you was ...it happens to men too!
Aside from the 'westminster stuff' the 'inappropriate touching' of knees and such it's not so serious if form an MP as a charity employee then... do we have a sliding scale of who is deemed capable of inappropriate behaviour, and the palaces of westminster don't have a HR department anyway?

Should this Knee touching be a reference to Damian Green and Kate Maltby please be aware he is as I stated earlier refusing to acknowledge what he did, and to be clear that is NOT why he lost his job that was for breaking the ministerial code for a totally unrelated issue.

What on earth are you trying to say exactly???, i told Vicky twice that what she experienced is 100 % sexual assault! and i called it vulgar aswell . I never once downplayed her distress or terrible experience .

Abuse is abuse and harassment is harassment whether at the hands of a man or woman .

[Kizzy]

Originally Posted by GoldHeart

What on earth are you trying to say exactly???, i told Vicky twice that what she experienced is 100 % sexual assault! and i called it vulgar aswell . I never once downplayed her distress or terrible experience .

Abuse is abuse and harassment is harassment whether at the hands of a man or woman .

I'm just telling you how it looked to me, it looked and still looks like there is the suggestion that abuse is an equal 2 way street.

It isn't, female on male abuse exists, nobody has suggested it doesn't but I'm sorry there is no comparison. I just want to make that screamingly obvious.

[GoldHeart]

Originally Posted by Kizzy

I'm just telling you how it looked to me, it looked and still looks like there is the suggestion that abuse is an equal 2 way street.

It isn't, female on male abuse exists, nobody has suggested it doesn't but I'm sorry there is no comparison. I just want to make that screamingly obvious.

I think we all know majority of sexual assault claims are from female victims , nobody is denying that . There's no witch hunt mentality for Brendan Cox the guy admitted he did wrong. Do you want us to applaud him or something?? .

If you want to know what a witch hunt is then look at the way Aled Jones was treated and that doesn't sound like he ACTUALLY did anything wrong . Still don't know what he was accused of , text messaging or something .

[Kizzy]

Originally Posted by GoldHeart

I think we all know majority of sexual assault claims are from female victims , nobody is denying that . There's no witch hunt mentality for Brendan Cox the guy admitted he did wrong. Do you want us to applaud him or something?? .

If you want to know what a witch hunt is then look at the way Aled Jones was treated and that doesn't sound like he ACTUALLY did anything wrong . Still don't know what he was accused of , text messaging or something .

He did yes, he admitted his errors and committed to change as stated by Jess Phillips and he is still being pilloried! He should just deny everything like Mr Green shouldn't he despite the inquiries and the victim statements... the media leave you alone then :/

I don't know about Aled... Can't have been that serious I haven't heard a thing about it.

[GoldHeart]

Originally Posted by Kizzy

He did yes, he admitted his errors and committed to change as stated by Jess Phillips and he is still being pilloried! He should just deny everything like Mr Green shouldn't he despite the inquiries and the victim statements... the media leave you alone then :/

I don't know about Aled... Can't have been that serious I haven't heard a thing about it.

This thread is about Brendan and people will still debate about it , so although he's admitted to it that doesn't stop people talking about it on here .