[jaxie]

Originally Posted by Maru

Why even assume we can do anything? I'm not real familiar with Syrias past, but many countries have had long-lived issues that won't simply go away because the West gets involved, It's arrogant to think we can fix every problem or solution in the world, especially internal problems, when we can't even solve our own. The most we can do is support humanitarian missions there to help get ppl resituated...

Well we are human beings, Syrian's are human beings, shouldn't we want to do something to help the people being obliterated by their government? I'm not seeing much being attempted diplomatically either. I'm certainly not arrogant enough to think we can fix everything in the West but I am humane enough to think someone should be trying to make it stop.

Growing up I thought this was what the UN and NATO were about, helping the innocent, going in and putting a stop to the violence. Now I look at these organisations and I wonder what is the point if they are just there to make noises. What happened to the 'peacekeeping forces?'

Note to the post about the stop the war speech. Had I anything to do with do with the Labour party of 2013 I would be slinking out of this thread on my stomach and not wanting to remind people about how Labour played politics with the vote to intervene with air strikes in 2013 when a difference might have been made early on. There was some shameful politicking going on over that vote that had very little to do with the reasons for the air strikes and a lot about party politics. Zero respect for any of the MPs involved in that.

Does anyone ever wonder how WW2 would play out today?

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

5000 children died today in s and East Africa. Mainly of diarrhea and pneumonia, both preventable. 5000 will die tomorrow and the next day and the day after and every day, 35,000 "each week in that small area of the globe.

Do we care?

Not really

Should we care?

Yes, of course.

Isn't that why we do charity donations? I certainly don't do mine to pay for prostitute services for members of Oxfam staff.