[Epic.]

Originally Posted by LukeB

James was a target from day one and he knew that and snipping and being rude doesn’t really make you a target. Brandi nearly lasted 3 weeks, and hello Josh won BB19. Its a cowards way out and Brandi is not a pussy who says it how it is.

'James was a target from day one and he knew that' yeah but that's why he was so polite and non-threatening to begin with? He knew he was a target and that's why he tried floating around in other's circles. It's how you recover from being a target.

Brandi lasted three weeks because Chuck made a mistake that ****ed him over, Keshia wanted to go, Shannon was a house pariah for ages, and Metta also wanted to leave. She didn't last this long out of any big impressive moves she did herself. Being sniping and being rude makes you a complete target, it means you get on people's nerves easier and there's more of a chance people will band against you, which is why someone as crafty as Omarosa is the main target at the moment.

[DouglasS]

Originally Posted by Epic.

'James was a target from day one and he knew that' yeah but that's why he was so polite and non-threatening to begin with? He knew he was a target and that's why he tried floating around in other's circles. It's how you recover from being a target.

Brandi lasted three weeks because Chuck made a mistake that ****ed him over, Keshia wanted to go, Shannon was a house pariah for ages, and Metta also wanted to leave. She didn't last this long out of any big impressive moves she did herself. Being sniping and being rude makes you a complete target, it means you get on people's nerves easier and there's more of a chance people will band against you, which is why someone as crafty as Omarosa is the main target at the moment.

I don't think you're going to get anywhere. You have extremely logical points, But it's falling on deaf ears sadly.

What you're saying is completely correct.

[Amy Jade]

Originally Posted by Epic.

'James was a target from day one and he knew that' yeah but that's why he was so polite and non-threatening to begin with? He knew he was a target and that's why he tried floating around in other's circles. It's how you recover from being a target.

Brandi lasted three weeks because Chuck made a mistake that ****ed him over, Keshia wanted to go, Shannon was a house pariah for ages, and Metta also wanted to leave. She didn't last this long out of any big impressive moves she did herself. Being sniping and being rude makes you a complete target, it means you get on people's nerves easier and there's more of a chance people will band against you, which is why someone as crafty as Omarosa is the main target at the moment.

Poor James he went to all that trouble to last longer than Brandi for 20 minutes.

She got a full interview and looked fab. He came out a sweaty mess. Karrrrrrma.

[RileyH]

Originally Posted by Amy Jade

Poor James he went to all that trouble to last longer than Brandi for 20 minutes.

She got a full interview and looked fab. He came out a sweaty mess. Karrrrrrma.

[Barry.]

Originally Posted by RileyH

The tea.

[DouglasS]

Originally Posted by Amy Jade

Poor James he went to all that trouble to last longer than Brandi for 20 minutes.

She got a full interview and looked fab. He came out a sweaty mess. Karrrrrrma.

Why are you so obsessed with looks.

Clearly you don't watch BBUS as tonnes of people leave in their sweats.

Also no one really cares about the interviews, they are never full, they last 5 minutes maximum, It's not like BBUK.

The karma is that James is extremely popular within the fandom and by the public, because he acted like a gent and that is why so many people like him.

[Morgan.]

Originally Posted by DouglasS

Why are you so obsessed with looks.

Clearly you don't watch BBUS as tonnes of people leave in their sweats.

Also no one really cares about the interviews, they are never full, they last 5 minutes maximum, It's not like BBUK.

The karma is that James is extremely popular within the fandom and by the public, because he acted like a gent and that is why so many people like him.

James isn't extremely popular and from what I've seen he is quite marmite. And he was NOT a gent, he was a self indulgent prick.

[DouglasS]

Originally Posted by Blurryface

James isn't extremely popular and from what I've seen he is quite marmite. And he was NOT a gent, he was a self indulgent prick.

Yes he is, when you check the FB page he is the most popular houseguest, people are rallying for him to win America's favorite.

Also when you look at Jokers, he went from being towards the bottom [pre season as he was a goodlooking male] to going to 2nd behind Shannon [Who was also very popular].

You can't base popularity of TIBB to actual popularity. TIBB Stans people like Lesley from BB6 who is loathed, or Alexandra/Charley, who were also loathed. It's not a true reflection of the public.

[Amy Jade]

Originally Posted by DouglasS

Why are you so obsessed with looks.

Clearly you don't watch BBUS as tonnes of people leave in their sweats.

Also no one really cares about the interviews, they are never full, they last 5 minutes maximum, It's not like BBUK.

The karma is that James is extremely popular within the fandom and by the public, because he acted like a gent and that is why so many people like him.

James is obsessed with looks, did you see his face when he was evicted? He shat himself having to go out in his gym gear (and pathetic own brand t shirt hahaha) I am mearly commenting on his eviction outfit! Is that not allowed on the US format? Only asking because you're clearly an expert!

[Matthew.]

Originally Posted by DouglasS

Why are you so obsessed with looks.

Clearly you don't watch BBUS as tonnes of people leave in their sweats.

Also no one really cares about the interviews, they are never full, they last 5 minutes maximum, It's not like BBUK.

The karma is that James is extremely popular within the fandom and by the public, because he acted like a gent and that is why so many people like him.

GENT MY ARSEHOLE

speaking of arseholes, James Maslow comes to mind…

[Matthew.]

i’m assuming the audience were told not to boo this series…

[RileyH]

Originally Posted by Matthew.

i’m assuming the audience were told not to boo this series…

they never boo

[Matthew.]

Originally Posted by RileyH

they never boo

thought they booed that racist girl that was on a few seasons ago (i think her name was aaryn…)

[DouglasS]

Originally Posted by Matthew.

i’m assuming the audience were told not to boo this series…

They don't boo generally.

They've only ever booed 3 people in 19 seasons. [a racist, another racist/bully, and a bitchy/flirty woman with a husband]

[DouglasS]

Originally Posted by Matthew.

GENT MY ARSEHOLE

speaking of arseholes, James Maslow comes to mind…

CBBUSA: Marissa Jaret Winokur

[Matthew.]

Originally Posted by DouglasS

CBBUSA: Marissa Jaret Winokur

your point being?
she hasn’t been malicious and nasty like james

[DouglasS]

Originally Posted by Matthew.

your point being?
she hasn’t been malicious and nasty like james

James hasn't been nasty or malicious. He has retaliated Back from someone being nasty and malicious towards him.

Marissa has however flirted with many men whilst married, been incredibly bitchy and personal for no reason, been incredibly annoying and also been fake.

Which is why she is the most disliked house guest this season by mass appeal [look anywhere other than TIBB]

[Amy Jade]

Originally Posted by Matthew.

your point being?
she hasn’t been malicious and nasty like james

If M̶M̶I̶ Douglass is bringing up faves look not further than his CBB18 fave. He's clearly into vile.

[Matthew.]

Originally Posted by Epic.

'James was a target from day one and he knew that' yeah but that's why he was so polite and non-threatening to begin with? He knew he was a target and that's why he tried floating around in other's circles. It's how you recover from being a target.

Brandi lasted three weeks because Chuck made a mistake that ****ed him over, Keshia wanted to go, Shannon was a house pariah for ages, and Metta also wanted to leave. She didn't last this long out of any big impressive moves she did herself. Being sniping and being rude makes you a complete target, it means you get on people's nerves easier and there's more of a chance people will band against you, which is why someone as crafty as Omarosa is the main target at the moment.

i’m new to international big brother, but i gt the impression that in this game, you’ll go further by playing the game but not making it obvious? that’s what brandi was planning to do, if she even had a game plan. she strikes me as not really knowing how to play an intense game

[LukeB]

Originally Posted by Epic.

'James was a target from day one and he knew that' yeah but that's why he was so polite and non-threatening to begin with? He knew he was a target and that's why he tried floating around in other's circles. It's how you recover from being a target.

Brandi lasted three weeks because Chuck made a mistake that ****ed him over, Keshia wanted to go, Shannon was a house pariah for ages, and Metta also wanted to leave. She didn't last this long out of any big impressive moves she did herself. Being sniping and being rude makes you a complete target, it means you get on people's nerves easier and there's more of a chance people will band against you, which is why someone as crafty as Omarosa is the main target at the moment.

It didn’t work

Keeping someone who gets on everyone nerves vs someone who doesn’t. I wonder who would the jury pick rudeness is not a good social game and being polite is. Social game is important how do you think Paul lost twice? He was rude,nasty and the list could go on. Which is why getting rid of Shannon wasn’t the best since her social game went downhill. This isn’t a personal game like BBUk is so being rude doesn’t entirely mean you’re a target, maybe at the start but further down no.

[Epic.]

Originally Posted by LukeB

It didn’t work

Keeping someone who gets on everyone nerves vs someone who doesn’t. I wonder who would the jury pick rudeness is not a good social game and being polite is. Social game is important how do you think Paul lost twice? He was rude,nasty and the list could go on. Which is why getting rid of Shannon wasn’t the best since her social game went downhill. This isn’t a personal game like BBUk is so being rude doesn’t entirely mean you’re a target, maybe at the start but further down no.

The fact you mentioned Paul proves why Brandi never had a shot to begin with whereas someone like James who actually did get on with everyone else more or less would be more likely.

[LukeB]

Originally Posted by Epic.

The fact you mentioned Paul proves why Brandi never had a shot to begin with whereas someone like James who actually did get on with everyone else more or less would be more likely.

Everyone knew Brandi didn’t have a chance at winning, her ‘rudeness’ made her a non-threatening player. So getting rid of Brandi was an awful move.

[Matthew.]

Originally Posted by LukeB

Everyone knew Brandi didn’t have a chance at winning, her ‘rudeness’ made her a non-threatening player. So getting rid of Brandi was an awful move.

oh yeah she was never going to win. funnily enough, brandi and james both had the worst odds at the start.

[Morgan.]

Originally Posted by Epic.

'James was a target from day one and he knew that' yeah but that's why he was so polite and non-threatening to begin with? He knew he was a target and that's why he tried floating around in other's circles. It's how you recover from being a target.

Brandi lasted three weeks because Chuck made a mistake that ****ed him over, Keshia wanted to go, Shannon was a house pariah for ages, and Metta also wanted to leave. She didn't last this long out of any big impressive moves she did herself. Being sniping and being rude makes you a complete target, it means you get on people's nerves easier and there's more of a chance people will band against you, which is why someone as crafty as Omarosa is the main target at the moment.

She still made three weeks and the Semi Final so to speak so you can't discredit it from her. And there's no proving that the mistakes and pleas of evicted HG's did cause her to last this long. There's a high chance she still could've made it, and vice versa.

Due to Shannon in Power Week 1 it does be unlikely Brandi was nommed so Chuck or James would've gone regardless. And if James went then it would've removed a target from Brandi propelling her further, potentially.

Omarosa would have gone Week 2 if Keshia didn't ask to leave, again ridding of someone who wanted Brandi out. But Ross was HOH so again she'd have been safe regardless that week.

Week 3 had an Ari HOH so Brandi was guaranteed safety and Shannon or Mark would've gone. Marks departure would've also put Brandi further potentially a shock he nommmed her later on.

Week 4 was the Omarosa HOH but assuming she went instead of Keshia, and James went Week 1, then Brandi could well have won the endurance HOH and ensured her safety. If not, then Metta plead to leave anyway so Brandi would've stuck around.

Week 5 was when Brandi left but if Mark had left earlier in the Shannon Eviction it's possible she wouldn't have been nommed and wouldn't have left.

All these things Show that Brandi still would've probably made it to a similar point.