[user104658]

Originally Posted by Withano

I wasnt actually aware of his domestic violence history, was that before or after cbb?

Before. I remember taking major issue with how several people thought he was this "great guy" on CBB when in my opinion he should never have been allowed on in the first place. The argument was that he's somehow now "a changed man" and it was "all the drink", the latter of which is a BS excuse used by far too many people who get physically abusive while drunk. "It's not me! It's the alcohol!!". No sir, it IS you, you're just worse at controlling your violence when drunk. He isn't changed at all either, he still quite blatantly has alcohol issues and he was passive-aggressive throughout the show and quite often looked like a balloon ready to pop... I very much doubt he would have remained so "calm" if there weren't dozens of cameras pointed at him.

[Kazanne]

Originally Posted by Toy Soldier

Before. I remember taking major issue with how several people thought he was this "great guy" on CBB when in my opinion he should never have been allowed on in the first place. The argument was that he's somehow now "a changed man" and it was "all the drink", the latter of which is a BS excuse used by far too many people who get physically abusive while drunk. "It's not me! It's the alcohol!!". No sir, it IS you, you're just worse at controlling your violence when drunk. He isn't changed at all either, he still quite blatantly has alcohol issues and he was passive-aggressive throughout the show and quite often looked like a balloon ready to pop... I very much doubt he would have remained so "calm" if there weren't dozens of cameras pointed at him.

Well of course you know him so much better than anyone else

[user104658]

Originally Posted by Kazanne

Well of course you know him so much better than anyone else

I know everything I need to know about him to make my own personal judgement of him. You're free to think what you want of him, also, but I'm not sure exactly what makes you feel that you're qualified to tell me that I'm "wrong" in my own opinion of an individual?

[Withano]

Originally Posted by Toy Soldier

Before. I remember taking major issue with how several people thought he was this "great guy" on CBB when in my opinion he should never have been allowed on in the first place. The argument was that he's somehow now "a changed man" and it was "all the drink", the latter of which is a BS excuse used by far too many people who get physically abusive while drunk. "It's not me! It's the alcohol!!". No sir, it IS you, you're just worse at controlling your violence when drunk. He isn't changed at all either, he still quite blatantly has alcohol issues and he was passive-aggressive throughout the show and quite often looked like a balloon ready to pop... I very much doubt he would have remained so "calm" if there weren't dozens of cameras pointed at him.

I didn't know his personal life or career history, and thought he was one of the better ones in the house. I really needed him to win when it was down to him vs Dappy. With this new info though, thats like the worst final 2 ever!