[bots]

As a man reading this thread I can make the following observations.

1. Men are trying to tell women how they should feel, what they should accept, how they should be referred to

2. The woman's position is being actively undermined

This doesn't seem particularly progressive to me.

[Marsh.]

Originally Posted by bitontheslide

As a man reading this thread I can make the following observations.

1. Men are trying to tell women how they should feel, what they should accept, how they should be referred to

2. The woman's position is being actively undermined

This doesn't seem particularly progressive to me.

Except women can also transition to become men.

The cis/trans discussion isn't a female oriented topic. It's a human one so your observation is flawed.

If we were discussing a female based topic like abortion or something I'd see your point. As it is you're telling men they have no say in a discussion that is about them just as much as it's about women. It's about everyone.

[jaxie]

Originally Posted by bitontheslide

As a man reading this thread I can make the following observations.

1. Men are trying to tell women how they should feel, what they should accept, how they should be referred to

2. The woman's position is being actively undermined

This doesn't seem particularly progressive to me.

Thanks so much for seeing it exactly as it is!
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