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Old 03-04-2018, 08:40 PM #11
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Yeah I'd read but that doesn't really enlighten very much... I'm open to hearing what his "learning experiences" actually were, if the interest is to be transparent... I can understand someone studying a group out of curiosity in their own time... joining and then engaging them is different than studying them from afar... though sometimes people study extreme movements up close in order to study their behavior in order to circumvent, but it could be just as easily to engage their own shadow side as well, and that's the rub... if he made himself fairly accessible to these fringe philosophies, then it wouldn't seem such a stretch to think that he would may be open to entertaining how to better accommodate those interests... he is a politician with a major career after all, not just a bored citizen with too much time on their hands and not enough to do with their time... I'm sure he could've gotten the "intel" some other manner if he was interesting in putting together a taskforce, for example...

It's not like he's suddenly the face of Anti-Antisemitism. He has not placed himself antithetical to those movements from what I understand? Maybe it's me, but it seems like he's actually downplaying the venom of these belief systems, when he thought it was significant enough to want to associate with them up close and study them in person?... Unless his intention was to welcome those interactions, then he needs to explain the true reason behind that contradiction... and saying he wants to fraternize for the sake of studying is like saying, I'm the boyfriend and I want to go into my girlfriend's room to study with her because I want to "encourage" her dedication towards her education... too much secrecy there and I think good reason to be concerned with what he was actually up to while in those spaces.

Trump was raked over the coals for not outright condemning the "alt-right" Charlottesville Nazis and with good reason. He didn't immediately clarify that position and so it seemed he was supporting the extremists at the same time as the peaceful protesters (especially when it was uniquely organized by extremists)...and yet he expects the other party to take criticism for their acceptance of Antifa, for example? That's why we can't entertain leadership whose interests appear to be divided... Hillary Clinton had this defect, and that's one of the main reasons she lost the election, was because she was a terrible candidate in this way... they must be clear what we are supporting, not only in their words, but through actions... wanting to have their cake and eat it too is the definition of corruption... and is also another reason why voter apathy is so high here...
No doubt Corbyn was already in that group and he most certainly has a good grasp on Israel, Zionism and the Left. Early in his campaign he suggested the British government stopped supporting and funding Israel as he see's it as an apartheid. He doesn't want to get rid of the state of Israel, he just doesn't want this country to support a people that are oppressing others. Corbyn is a man who hates racism and oppression and so he will stick to his guns on this regardless of what the press throw at him. He's up against a power house that will do everything they possibly can to stop him gaining power and perhaps they. We'l just have to see if this rabid press pays off.

So he attended a Left wing anti-Zionist gathering because of the way he swings regarding Israel.
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