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Old 06-04-2018, 12:45 PM #1
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The Tony Martin case made self defence illegal and decriminalised burglary. At a parole hearing, because Tony Martin said he would do the same again, his parole was denied with the official reason that "People going about their lawful business need to be protected" ergo self defence,is illegal and burglary is a lawful occupation. This from Case Law in the UK

This means this pensioner will be tried for murder and the jury will be required to convict due to case law, as the burglars were about their lawful occupation.

Also if a burglar injures themselves on your property, you can be held liable in any civil case.

If a burglar wants to take your stuff and it is heavy, you may have to assist in carrying it out for them, so they are not injured.
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If a burglar wants to take your stuff and it is heavy, you may have to assist in carrying it out for them, so they are not injured.
And if a burglar brings along his pet fairies, you may be legally obliged to offer them a small refreshment to ensure they don't become parched.
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And if a burglar brings along his pet fairies, you may be legally obliged to offer them a small refreshment to ensure they don't become parched.
Exactly!
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I was told by someone (who said that they had been told by a policeman) that if you do confront a burglar and overpower them by physical means you should make sure they are found in your bedroom (or at least upstairs) as you are less likely to get charged if they are upstairs in your home when you attack them. Don't know how true it is - and don't want to test it out particularly
I might buy a toy gun, and keep it under my bed to place in a burglar's hand if I knock them out/kill them, so I can claim I thought my life was in danger

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The Tony Martin case made self defence illegal and decriminalised burglary.
That's completely backwards and ridiculous.
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That's completely backwards and ridiculous.
And the law..

This is how our system works, a judgement made elsewhere sets legal precedent which other courts are duty bound to follow.
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And the law..

This is how our system works, a judgement made elsewhere sets legal precedent which other courts are duty bound to follow.
Only where the precedent has been set by a higher court than the one trying the case. Precedent does not have to be followed if set by a lower level court of one at the same level.
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And the law..

This is how our system works, a judgement made elsewhere sets legal precedent which other courts are duty bound to follow.
You are correct there Sticks as far as I am aware. Of course, a lot of 'Iffy' Judges do not always follow them and 'do their own thing'
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And the law..

This is how our system works, a judgement made elsewhere sets legal precedent which other courts are duty bound to follow.
It's a law that can very easily get overturned if the public have an outcry about it.

I mean let's look at this very case that we're discussing on this thread.
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