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13-04-2018, 08:37 AM | #1 | |||
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https://news.sky.com/story/amp/alfie...otest-11328278
I am struggling to understand what the family and people gathering think they will achieve by this. It says in the article that the father says the hospital is preventing them taking him home and look how healthy he is. Clearly you can't just pick up a child on life support and trot off with them. It must be hard to accept the death of a child but the disruption to a hospital treating many other sick children seems grossly unfair.
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13-04-2018, 09:24 AM | #2 | |||
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13-04-2018, 09:28 AM | #3 | |||
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13-04-2018, 09:39 AM | #4 | |||
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Science isn't ALWAYS right LT.
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13-04-2018, 09:46 AM | #5 | ||
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I think this is an inevitable part of the Internet / social media era, it's been happening a lot lately. People have Google, so they can gather a lot of information on various conditions very quickly and form their own strong opinions vs medical professionals. And then they have social media to quickly gather a crowd of supporters, who generally mean well, but don't actually know exactly what they're campaigning for. A lot of people do very little, if any, research of their own before jumping into these sorts of campaigns.
It is understandable that people want to cling onto something as long as possible... But it can I think lead to people holding onto false hope for extended periods of time, which can make coming to terms with these unthinkable things even harder. |
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13-04-2018, 09:47 AM | #6 | |||
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These cases are becoming so common now, people can't accept the inevitability, doctors will be working on behalf of the child,
this comment says it all This is my son. Look at my healthy, healthy young boy who is undiagnosed, who is certainly not dying." How can he not be dying if he needs a machine to keep him alive? These same people protesting will be the same people who rock up in A and E with a cut finger
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13-04-2018, 09:48 AM | #7 | |||
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Oh snap TS, look at us on the same page
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13-04-2018, 10:02 AM | #8 | |||
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Im sorry but they dont care about the child like they should they just want the child to suffer by being selfish.
Put the childs needs first not your own
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13-04-2018, 10:10 AM | #9 | |||
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Ah stop, that's an awful thing to say, that's their baby, i couldn't even imagine having to go through that. It may not be the right thing but saying they want him to suffer is really below the belt. They don't want him to die
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13-04-2018, 10:13 AM | #10 | |||
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Sometimes in life you have to realise bad things will happened there is no way of stopping them, Id just want the child to be pain free in peace
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13-04-2018, 10:16 AM | #11 | |||
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13-04-2018, 10:17 AM | #12 | |||
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Sometimes in life you have to put other peoples pain first
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13-04-2018, 10:44 AM | #13 | |||
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From what I saw last night - they have medics and full equipment available but want to get him to Italy where they have been promised pioneering treatment. They have a private medical jet at their disposal. Its not a case of they want to rip his tubes out and take him to McDonalds.
I feel desperately sorry for them all - although the medics are not acting maliciously either - they don't want him to suffer and believe they can't help him futher
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13-04-2018, 10:49 AM | #14 | |||
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13-04-2018, 10:54 AM | #16 | |||
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Heartbreaking for all
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13-04-2018, 10:55 AM | #17 | |||
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Will he even survive the long journey to another country? its not like they are moving him up the road
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13-04-2018, 10:56 AM | #18 | ||
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These cases are the toughest ones really because like the dad says, what you actually see is a "healthy looking boy" and we have instincts for identifying people who are very ill or dying. If a dying family member LOOKS very ill, people tend to accept it. But in these cases, there's nothing wrong with their physical bodies so they can look physically totally fine even when effectively brain dead. I think it creates a situation for family that's very hard to process. |
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13-04-2018, 10:58 AM | #19 | |||
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13-04-2018, 11:10 AM | #21 | |||
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I know, I just don't know where people get the strength to keep going tbh, I guess if you have other children you'd have to do your best
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13-04-2018, 11:16 AM | #22 | |||
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I suppose I find all the protesters buying into the idea that the hospital don't have the child's best interests at heart hard to understand. Hospitals like Alder Hay and Great Ormand Street give amazing, dedicated care and save lives every day. They aren't the enemy. TBH I don't think the Pope and his children's hospital have been very helpful either in both this and the Charlie Gard case. Since what is wrong is undiagnosed because its so rare how can they have something to help? It seems like peddling false hope. I suspect if they take him home they will run straight to chunnel in their specially equipped van.
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13-04-2018, 11:41 AM | #23 | |||
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The parents have been granted a fresh appeal in Court on Monday
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13-04-2018, 12:03 PM | #24 | |||
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The point is they and others are willing to try.
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13-04-2018, 12:04 PM | #25 | |||
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Great news
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