[montblanc]

Originally Posted by Kazanne

They were asked to leave for a reason,they may know these men,they maybe trouble makers,none of us were there so we don't actually have any proof either way, but I really don't think they would have been asked to leave if something hadn't cracked off, what would be the point :? shrug: I may have no evidence of attitude just as you have no evidence of them doing nothing.

the other people around them said that they were doing nothing

and you saying that you "don't think they would have been asked to leave if something hadn't cracked off" is a bit ignorant as you're denying any possibly of some sort of prejudiced judgment against them (or anyone for that matter)

[Beso]

Originally Posted by Kazanne

Were you their ? I doubt it so you don't know that is fact, they could have said anything that people were not aware of,you don't call the police for nothing.

The police were called because they refused to leave after being refused the toilet like the copper last year...he left though..sensible man.

[Ashley.]

Originally Posted by Kazanne

They were asked to leave for a reason,they may know these men,they maybe trouble makers,none of us were there so we don't actually have any proof either way, but I really don't think they would have been asked to leave if something hadn't cracked off, what would be the point :? shrug: I may have no evidence of attitude just as you have no evidence of them doing nothing.

Witnesses stated that they'd done nothing wrong, they have no reason to lie/defend these men. Which is more evidence than you seem to be showing to back up your assumptions.

[montblanc]

Originally Posted by Kazanne

Were you their ? I doubt it so you don't know that is fact, they could have said anything that people were not aware of,you don't call the police for nothing.

the white people around them said it themselves in the article

[Beso]

https://www.google.co.uk/amp/s/amp.y.../amp/517779002

[Denver]

Only people who hate the black race will think those men had a attitude

[Ashley.]

Originally Posted by parmnion

The police were called because they refused to leave after being refused the toilet like the copper last year...he left though..sensible man.

No, the police were called because the two men wouldn't leave. They never refused. Because they were never asked.

[Beso]

Originally Posted by chuff me dizzy

And YOU have no proof it was because they were black either

And nobody knows the ethnicity of the starbucks employee.

[Amy Jade]

Originally Posted by parmnion

They refused to leave after the police had asked them to 3 times...thats a bad attitude.

No it's not. They had done nothing wrong, why would they be asked to leave and other customers step up and say they did nothing wrong if they had?

Other customers were seated who had not paid for any goods either so why specifically pick on those two?

[montblanc]

Originally Posted by parmnion

And nobody knows the ethnicity of the starbucks employee.

it wouldn't matter

[Beso]

Originally Posted by Ashley.

No, the police were called because the two men wouldn't leave. They never refused. Because they were never asked.

Thats not what the police commisioner is saying.....he is saying they refused...he is black.

[Denver]

80% of the American police are racist scum

[Kazanne]

Originally Posted by montblanc

the other people around them said that they were doing nothing

and you saying that you "don't think they would have been asked to leave if something hadn't cracked off" is a bit ignorant as you're denying any possibly of some sort of prejudiced judgment against them (or anyone for that matter)

They probably weren't doing 'nothing' but also no one knows if they said something to the staff or whoever reported them,or maybe they were just asked to leave as they weren't buying anything, there could be several reasons,I wasn't there, it's Starbucks call it's their shop I find it ignorant to assume that it was because they were 'black'. It could well be something as simple as Starbucks have a rule about the toilets being for customers only,lots of shops etc have that policy, I am not denying anything and neither am I assuming .

[montblanc]

Originally Posted by Kazanne

They probably weren't doing 'nothing' but also no one knows if they said something to the staff or whoever reported them,or maybe they were just asked to leave as they weren't buying anything, there could be several reasons,I wasn't there, it's Starbucks call it's their shop I find it ignorant to assume that it was because they were 'black'. It could well be something as simple as Starbucks have a rule about the toilets being for customers only,lots of shops etc have that policy, I am not denying anything and neither am I assuming .

if it even was that simple that doesn’t justify asking people to leave or arresting them if they had only asked to use the restroom

[Beso]

So you walk into a small shop and ask to use the bog but get told no its for paying customers only.....what do you do?

Walk out and try the next one?

Or stand about menacingly after being asked to leave....still obviously bursting on that pee you so desperately need that you couldnt take your pishyness away from everyone to the actual toilet toilet probably 20 yards away...


And if that bloke was meeting them, and not just talking out his arse causing more damage than good with his actions then am mary poppins.

[Kazanne]

Originally Posted by montblanc

if it even was that simple that doesn’t justify asking people to leave or arresting them if they had only asked to use the restroom

If it is their shop they have the right to ask anyone to leave and wasn't it the police who arrested them so are the police prejudiced aswell?

[Ashley.]

Originally Posted by parmnion

So you walk into a small shop and ask to use the bog but get told no its for paying customers only.....what do you do?

Walk out and try the next one?

Or stand about menacingly after being asked to leave....still obviously bursting on that pee you so desperately need that you couldnt take your pishyness away from everyone to the actual toilet toilet probably 20 yards away...


And if that bloke was meeting them, and not just talking out his arse causing more damage than good with his actions then am mary poppins.

They were sitting down, actually.

Who mentioned menacingly, anyway? No proof of that whatsoever.

[Beso]

Originally Posted by Ashley.

They were sitting down, actually.

Who mentioned menacingly, anyway? No proof of that whatsoever.

Have you read the link i posted?

[Jamie89]

If they were a couple of elderly white ladies this would never have happened and you all know it. Racism doesn't have to be explicit for it to be obvious.

[Crimson Dynamo]

Originally Posted by Jamie89

If they were a couple of elderly white ladies this would never have happened and you all know it. Racism doesn't have to be explicit for it to be obvious.

what a pointless comparison

if they were a couple of muslims with backpacks, what then?

or two schoolgirls

or ant and dec

get a grip

[AnnieK]

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

what a pointless comparison

if they were a couple of muslims with backpacks, what then?

or two schoolgirls

or ant and dec

get a grip

Could be an interesting experiment. Two old ladies, two muslims, two teenagers etc all hit different Starbucks at the same time asking to use the bathrooms without purchasing anything just to see what reaction they get. i would imagine the results would be illuminating.

[Niamh.]

Indeed

[Amy Jade]

Originally Posted by AnnieK

Could be an interesting experiment. Two old ladies, two muslims, two teenagers etc all hit different Starbucks at the same time asking to use the bathrooms without purchasing anything just to see what reaction they get. i would imagine the results would be illuminating.

You may enjoy the youtube channel What Would You Do? Annie, they do experiments just like that so see how the public react.

[AnnieK]

Originally Posted by Amy Jade

You may enjoy the youtube channel What Would You Do? Annie, they do experiments just like that so see how the public react.

I'll check it out Amy, thanks

[GiRTh]

Originally Posted by Amy Jade

You may enjoy the youtube channel What Would You Do? Annie, they do experiments just like that so see how the public react.

Youtube video