[Ammi]

Originally Posted by GiRTh

......see you got there in the end, Girth...you know we wouldn't have judged you if you had just said that at the beginning...we're all understanding of a bit of Dean love....

[Ammi]

...actually it looks as though he has nail polish on his toes in that pic...you like that, eh...his feminine side.....

[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by Ammi

...actually it looks as though he has nail polish on his toes in that pic...you like that, eh...his feminine side.....

That's not nail polish, that's Steve Avery's blood

[user104658]

Originally Posted by Niamh.

That's not nail polish, that's Steve Avery's blood

"If Steve's blood on my toes looks the ****, YOU MUST AQUIT!"

[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by GiRTh

[user104658]

FFS who makes these things:

[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by Toy Soldier

FFS who makes these things:

My moms husband was very impressed by the fact he had a Hurling statue in his office

[Josy]

This is the top reasons why I'm back to thinking 100% okay maybe 99% not guilty...


Where is all the blood/dna in the trailer and garage?

It's very possible that Avery Salvage wasn't Teresa's last stop.

Why would Steven and Brendan miraculously (and impossibly imo) clean every single piece of blood/dna evidence from the trailer/garage then drive her car to the other side of the yard and just leave it there where anyone could find it especially as they have use of a crusher then go 100 miles away with the rest of the family to the cabin for 3/4 days. I mean they aren't the most sensible people in the world but c'mon now.

The 'damning evidence' that prosecution said were left out of the show isn't damning at all in fact most of is pretty far fetched and slightly embellished.

No motive and why would someone that had spent 18 years in prison and who was due to get a huge payout want to risk everything to go back?

Manitowoc County Sheriffs are completely corrupt.

They both had alibi's

Not one other person was ever investigated, asked for alibis and so on which to me is very strange considering messages had been deleted from her voicemail and some close to her had admitting 'hacking' her phone passwords.

And the fact that they needed and eyewitness so badly then along comes Brendan who added to Steves alibi of being not guilty and the ridiculous coerced 'confession' comes into it.

[DemolitionRed]

What I want to know is, why didn't Brendan's defence lawyer jump in and correct the prosecutor when he was initially talking to the jury and claiming there was blood seeping up out of the concrete in the garage floor?.

[jet]

Josy, the blood in the trailer/garage question - My thoughts.....Wasn't the only evidence they found that caused death a gunshot to the head? I'm thinking Teresa's throat wasn't slit at all as anything Brendan said could be put down to police trying to get details out of him and unfortunately for them some of it didn't fit as he was making it up 'to please them'. As the only place her blood was found (if I remember correctly) was in her car, then after such a supposedly violent death (stabbing, shooting) then she couldn't have met her end that way in Steve's trailer or garage.
Once Brendan had told the police on tape and video that is where it happened, they had to go with that. I'm amazed the jury let the blood question go unanswered. I couldn't have found him guilty on that point alone.

As we only have Brendan's story about the throat slitting and shooting, and I think he is innocent and he wasn't there at all, then there would be no blood in those area's, as there wasn't.
Which means Steve didn't kill her, or he killed her elsewhere.
Which doesn't help lol and as I'm new to this thread all this may have been said before....

[Josy]

Originally Posted by jet

Josy, the blood in the trailer/garage question - My thoughts.....Wasn't the only evidence they found that caused death a gunshot to the head? I'm thinking Teresa's throat wasn't slit at all as anything Brendan said could be put down to police trying to get details out of him and unfortunately for them some of it didn't fit as he was making it up 'to please them'. As the only place her blood was found (if I remember correctly) was in her car, then after such a supposedly violent death (stabbing, shooting) then she couldn't have met her end that way in Steve's trailer or garage.
Once Brendan had told the police on tape and video that is where it happened, they had to go with that. I'm amazed the jury let the blood question go unanswered. I couldn't have found him guilty on that point alone.

As we only have Brendan's story about the throat slitting and shooting, and I think he is innocent and he wasn't there at all, then there would be no blood in those area's, as there wasn't.
Which means Steve didn't kill her, or he killed her elsewhere.
Which doesn't help lol and as I'm new to this thread all this may have been said before....

Exactly, yet both of them were found guilty (one of killing her or being party to in the garage and one of killing her or being party to in the trailer)

Which goes back to the main point of the whole trial and investigation being a complete farce and both being entitled to at least a new fair trial.

I don't believe any of the stuff from Brendan's story happened at all, you could see they were pushing at him to mention a gun/Teresa being shot but he guessed at lots of other things first and then they had no choice but to include all that because they wanted to use what he eventually said about her being shot.

And then Kratz really had a field day with feeding all the gory information to the media, something that should never have happened.

[Ammi]

..Brendan's 'confession' of Teresa's murder was something he said at his trial that he had seen in a movie 'Kiss the Girls'/something similar, I think it was Matt that posted that...



..as well as Kratz, it was the judge as well, not only what he allowed but his words as well...the linking and talking about Avery's past crime of brutal rape, when that had already been established as being false and he was completely innocent and also one of the charges which he was found guilty of in his murder conviction...wasn't that of a felon illegally owning a firearm..?...but surely he wasn't a felon though...?...

[user104658]

To have framed himself to set up this whole narrative, Avery would have to have genius-level intelligence and unless he's pulling the ultimate "Keyser Soze", he just doesn't have that sort of intellect.

Also... No... Sadly I don't think we'll ever know what happened to the girl. If Avery and Brendan are found not to have done it and released, even proven conclusively to be innocent, they will still never be able to charge anyone else with the murder. Any ability to investigate further, and more evidence there might once have been, will have been gone or tainted for years by now.

[Alf]

Looks to me like a Mafioso style of set-up.

People in high places of power can get away with anything, they can even get away with assassinating a president in broad daylight in front of the viewing public.

[lostalex]

Originally Posted by wannashag

Looks to me like a Mafioso style of set-up.

People in high places of power can get away with anything, they can even get away with assassinating a president in broad daylight in front of the viewing public.

no, a solitary psychopathic communist murdered the president.

[Alf]

Originally Posted by lostalex

no, a solitary psychopathic communist murdered the president.

It was the Mafia, they still ran your Country at that point.

[lostalex]

Originally Posted by wannashag

It was the Mafia, they still ran your Country at that point.

that doesn't make any sense. look what happened to the mafia. if they had that much power in the US government then why did the US government completely destroy them a decade later? and why would the current US government still be hiding your so-called truth?

[Alf]

Originally Posted by lostalex

that doesn't make any sense. look what happened to the mafia. if they had that much power in the US government then why did the US government completely destroy them a decade later? and why would the current US government still be hiding your so-called truth?

The hard drug culture of the 70s when the coke and heroin came on the scene played a big part in the downfall of the Mafia.

Why would the current government want to show how corrupt their establishment is by letting everybody know that they co-operated with the Mafia to assassinate a popular president.

I don't know this as fact, but this is just my assumption.


Anyway enough of Kennedy, back to the topic.

[Josy]

About Steven Avery

Prosecutors tried to delay his bail application applying for a motion to extend the case giving them more time to respond to corruption allegations.

But the state has been told to file their paperwork by March 2 so the case can go forward meaning Avery will learn what prosecutors have up their sleeve next Wednesday.

Read more at http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/world-n...ho7xSeAF6ab.99

http://www.dailyrecord.co.uk/news/uk...DDRZC3yv3jo.97

[Alf]

Does anybody know if Brendan got to watch Wrestlemania?

[Josy]

Yeah I've been.keeping up with her tweets ammi

She's also said there's evidence that the sherrifs officers were trying to get avery for murder before teresa was even found and that people were using fake id's to check in and out of the crime scene

[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by Josy

Yeah I've been.keeping up with her tweets ammi

She's also said there's evidence that the sherrifs officers were trying to get avery for murder before teresa was even found and that people were using fake id's to check in and out of the crime scene

jesus Christ if that's true I hope to **** that every single one of them pricks is held completely accountable and they're locked up for the rest of their miserable lives

#MakingAMurderer2

[Ammi]

Originally Posted by Niamh.

jesus Christ if that's true I hope to **** that every single one of them pricks is held completely accountable and they're locked up for the rest of their miserable lives

#MakingAMurderer2

..a friend of mine who also watched it, said that they were already making a 2nd series to update...so maybe all of these tweets are like 'publicity tasters' for it.....

[Ammi]

..yeah I was wondering as well, should she be tweeting all of it/trial by tweet..I thought that evidence to be used in a case was meant to be kept confidential and she's been tweeting how she's going to dispute all of the other 'evidence' as well..?...

[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by Josy

Yeah I've been.keeping up with her tweets ammi

She's also said there's evidence that the sherrifs officers were trying to get avery for murder before teresa was even found and that people were using fake id's to check in and out of the crime scene

I mean there's a difference between planting evidence on a guy because you believe he's responsible and actively setting a guy up when you know he didn't do it, a massive difference, obviously both are wrong but the latter is unforgivably bad