[Marsh.]

Originally Posted by T*

do you have a fedora or

If that was a dig at me you can die.

[Black Dagger]

Originally Posted by T*

It seems people aren't ****ing reading my posts correctly so I'm not going to give it my time of day anymore so I'm just going to ****ing bed bye

ENJOY YOURSELVES.

K night hun

[Fetch The Bolt Cutters]

those braided/cotton thingy iphone charger cables are always stronger than the plastic ones

[Denver]

I dont get on with Tom but he has been treated appallingly tonight

[Mystic Mock]

Originally Posted by Adam.

I dont get on with Tom but he has been treated appallingly tonight

The whole thing has gone crazy tbf on both sides.

[Mitchell]

This has been a thoroughly enjoying read, **** Raph, I want you lot in that house

[Ninastar]

Okay now that I've watched the episode, I will give my opinion.

Yes, I can see why people thought this was fake. It doesn't look genuine and you don't ever see tears on this show anyway. However, I know for a fact (through having a heart to heart with raph lol) that he truly does feel awful about this. I know that people will struggle to see it like that but I also know this thread was made just to cause arguments/ a scene/ w.e.

It's difficult to see people so happy to slate raph and knowing they are doing it to piss his friends off, but there's nothing that can be done about that really. And yeah, I know some people genuinely aren't liking what they are seeing, but a good majority are totally enjoying the fact that they can slate/hate/bitch about him, just because he's a housemate.

[caprimint]

Just watched this and I'm struggling to see where anybody was 'applauding' the fact he cheated.

Just because you defend or even support a housemate doesn't mean you have to agree with everything they say/do, on the show or in their past.

[Amy Jade]

Originally Posted by caprimint

Just watched this and I'm struggling to see where anybody was 'applauding' the fact he cheated.

Just because you defend or even support a housemate doesn't mean you have to agree with everything they say/do, on the show or in their past.

You watched but didn't see the housemates applaude it?

[caprimint]

Originally Posted by Amy Jade

You watched but didn't see the housemates applaude it?

Pretty sure they were applauding how he spoke straight up about it rather than the actual action

[Vanessa]

Originally Posted by caprimint

Pretty sure they were applauding how he spoke straight up about it rather than the actual action

Yes, they applauded his honesty.

[LukeB]

Originally Posted by caprimint

Pretty sure they were applauding how he spoke straight up about it rather than the actual action

This. I admire him being honest and he could have bragged about it but he didnt and hasnt. Some cheaters brag and laugh about it and raph hasn't done that

[Vanessa]

Originally Posted by LukeB

This. I admire him being honest and he could have bragged about it but he didnt and hasnt. Some cheaters brag and laugh about it and raph hasn't done that

He could have denied it or try to justify it, but he didn't.

[Amy Jade]

Originally Posted by caprimint

Pretty sure they were applauding how he spoke straight up about it rather than the actual action

Yes...and some of us apparently got how ironic applauding a cheater for being honest is. Some not so much.

[Babayaro.]

Here for Raph winning. The fumes would be a delight! x

[AnnieK]

Wow...This is going to be a tough season. Every year we have threads where people defend their faves and people who don't like them critise them. This is no different but it seems that people who have met raph are being accused of only defending him because they've met him but surely that is more of a reason to defend someone than just because they like them off the show??? I've not seen anyone saying he is above criticism and therefore no one is trying to shut anyone down.

[Vanessa]

I like him. I think he's sweet. We all make mistakes when we're young. I'm even guilty of cheating myself in the past. I was very young at the time. I regret it now, but i can't change the past.

[Gusto Brunt]

Yeah he cheated time and time again.

[Denver]

why would i be jealous of a cheat?

[sampvt]

All part of his master plan, admit the cheating, break down, sucker sympathy then get a pat on the back fr being honest. He tries to make cheating sound normal. We all know different, well at least my generation does and we are the ones with marriages like mine 44 yrs plus and never cheated once, no need to as we think our partners dont deserve it. We dont operate or condone the new code of cheat and divorce like todays kids.

[chuff me dizzy]

Originally Posted by sampvt

All part of his master plan, admit the cheating, break down, sucker sympathy then get a pat on the back fr being honest. He tries to make cheating sound normal. We all know different, well at least my generation does and we are the ones with marriages like mine 44 yrs plus and never cheated once, no need to as we think our partners dont deserve it. We dont operate or condone the new code of cheat and divorce like todays kids.

Oh he knew exactly what he was doing ,he knew public and hm8s wouldn't like him cheating so out came the fake tears, few silly birds telling him it was ok ,and all smiles again ......Job done

[Denver]

You all pretty much said it doesnt matter as he was young and it was women he cheated on

[sampvt]

personally I think he is lying to gain an edge

[Vanessa]

Originally Posted by sampvt

personally I think he is lying to gain an edge

Could be, who knows? Maybe part of his game plan?

[sampvt]

game player = nice guy, i dont think so, he is too shifty and calculated for my liking