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Old 27-12-2009, 06:04 PM #1
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Because a life sentence rarely means that! I don't want others to die at the hands of someone who could have permanently been prevented from killing again!
That's my point. Make it a life sentence by deafult for these people. With life meaning life.

Also a living martyr is a bit of an oxymoron.
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That's my point. Make it a life sentence by deafult for these people. With life meaning life.

Also a living martyr is a bit of an oxymoron.
You don't have to die to be a martyr. Any kind of sacrifice - ie imprisonment (permanent or otherwise) can be viewed as martyrdom!
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You don't have to die to be a martyr. Any kind of sacrifice - ie imprisonment (permanent or otherwise) can be viewed as martyrdom!
It's not though, I dealt with this in my last post. A failed attack is seen as a failure. Martyrs are people who die for the cause.
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It's not though, I dealt with this in my last post. A failed attack is seen as a failure. Martyrs are people who die for the cause.
Sorry - but you didn't! If he had killed westerners, but not died himself, and been imprisoned for say 10 years - he would be viewed as a martyr by many - giving up his freedom, risking his life to kill westerners etc.
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You don't have to die to be a martyr. Any kind of sacrifice - ie imprisonment (permanent or otherwise) can be viewed as martyrdom!
Then I guess the term has been clouded from what it once was.

That and the fact that you would be killing people who were prepared to die anyway with capital punishment. What sort of punishment to the individual is that? He psyched himself out and prepared himself for sacrafice in the name of his God anyway, he was under the assumption he was going to die anyway, so you would basically be handing it to him on a silver platter!

Compare that to having to spend your entire life in a cell and be rendered a number, unable to make a public statement of any sort, at the hands of those you seeked to destroy.

A lot of these people campaigning for the death penalty are just in it for there own selfish voyeuristic satisfaction. What honest difference does it make to their lives? Far more useful fucking things to be campaigning for, if you ask me. Maybe some of the more ardent armchair supporters of the death penalty should take up Tennis or Golf or something.
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There are far many people who considered that bright young deluded man who went from a top UCL student to a bomber as a martyr. sad. but true.
 
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Here we go, baby. TiBB Muslimgate eleven!
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How on earth can you compare sending terrorists to prison with denying drugs to the sick as a foundation for your argument? That's about as abstract as it gets. Are we denying drugs to the sick because we buy dog food? Or spend money on wars? Entertainment? Hosting sporting events?

For what it's worth, the cost off keeping someone in jail is absoloutely miniscule, meaningless, nil, nothing, compared to the cost of the legal battle/court stuff before hand anyway. Execution or no execution.
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Look what he has caused.
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Look what he has caused.
Good god, ridiculous, not gonna be able to go anywhere, nobodys wants that bother. Plus i've been on long flights, it gets so boring.
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Good god, ridiculous, not gonna be able to go anywhere, nobodys wants that bother. Plus i've been on long flights, it gets so boring.
Yes long flights you need Gadgets.

At least this Fool was banned from the UK
The Yanks gave him a Visa as his dad is rich.
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Yes long flights you need Gadgets.

At least this Fool was banned from the UK
The Yanks gave him a Visa as his dad is rich.
Indeed, puts me off going to America.
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Indeed, puts me off going to America.
Isn't that where Setanta has gone! Hope it hasn't spoilt his trip!
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Religion is such a riddiculous and fucked up concept that it has even prevented us from taking a piss during flights.

Amazing.
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Jst reading the title of the thead it sound like you dissapointed that they failed
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Jst reading the title of the thead it sound like you dissapointed that they failed
More like how stuid they are.
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Jst reading the title of the thead it sound like you dissapointed that they failed

No its good he failed
he was a loner, not a Team player in this.

He was not Clever enough for this task.
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http://www.dailymail.co.uk/debate/ar...ic-terror.html


Yemen Terror gangs gave him the Explosives
but he was not good enough for this type of Job.

He thought if it went off he would go to a Heaven
Typical Evil Muslim Trick
used on the young.


All that Money his Rich dad given him
and all gone to waste as he thought he was doing good.

Soon American Planes will have Armed (electric guns) Troops on them
then these Dumb Crazy Muslims will never get near that level again.
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