[Ross]

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

But you are missing the point. Your point is valid if men and women were biologically similar with similar sexual needs and profiles. Surely 2 men will be in greater danger of infidelity?

There are 6 billion or so people who live on earth and everyday that number rises, so I'm sure a small percentage of the world who are gay, lesbian, choose to not have kids and ofcourse the people who cannot have kids naturally won't really matter to the popular. (I kinda feel this is what you're hinting at, two men can't reproduce so the population will be effected in the long run)

I don't think two men are in greater danger of infidelity. Women are just as bad as men in cheating on their partners. Men may have a higher sex drive than women so surely two gay men's sex life would be better with eachother, surely?

[Crimson Dynamo]

Originally Posted by Ross

There are 6 billion or so people who live on earth and everyday that number rises, so I'm sure a small percentage of the world who are gay, lesbian, choose to not have kids and ofcourse the people who cannot have kids naturally won't really matter to the popular. (I kinda feel this is what you're hinting at, two men can't reproduce so the population will be effected in the long run)

I don't think two men are in greater danger of infidelity. Women are just as bad as men in cheating on their partners. Men may have a higher sex drive than women so surely two gay men's sex life would be better with eachother, surely?

I do not know hence the question and debate.

[Fom]

I know lots of married gay couples and I can say one thing, in my circle of friends I have never experienced a gay divorce. But a lot of straight divorces.

If male couples eventually get married, then it is most likely they have got over the fact they are both men and do not mind all the things you mention.

[Tom]

Gay wedding = contradiction

Don't really care though, if it makes people happy then why not

[Wildcat!]

Originally Posted by Tom

Gay wedding = contradiction

Don't really care though, if it makes people happy then why not

Pretty much my feelings on the thing. It does not really concern me, so whatever.

[WOMBAI]

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

We are constantly told that men think about sex every 7 seconds, that they are non biologically monogamous, that our make up is to procreate with as many as possible to spread the gene pool etc

Women are different and need to keep a mate etc they counterbalance the male urges etc and thus the 2 are well suited.

So what hope do 2 men who are homosexual have of having a steady and happy relationship. Should this whole gay "wedding" thing be scrapped as it is a non starter or do 2 men being together by law somehow biologically change?

Surely lesbian "weddings" make much more sense?

Full of sweeping statements!

[Wildcat!]

The statistics, will be misleading, if youre gonna compare, Same sex marriages, with homosexual ones. BUt if youre gonna compare Homosexual marriages, they are gonna be similar.

Straight marriages, are common, and they result in divorce about half of the time. Because people these days, dont think twice about getting married, since its so easy to get divorced whenever something goes wrong. Which explains why divorce rate is pretty high now,.

When it comes to gay marriages, well, its not very common, and as far as I know, they have to be pretty committed in order to take that step. So naturally, the divorce rate is gonna be pretty low, weather they are gay or lesbians. I dont there is much difference in the numbers, given how recent the earliest gay marriages are.

[Crimson Dynamo]

Originally Posted by Wildcat!

The statistics, will be misleading, if youre gonna compare, Same sex marriages, with homosexual ones. BUt if youre gonna compare Homosexual marriages, they are gonna be similar.

Straight marriages, are common, and they result in divorce about half of the time. Because people these days, dont think twice about getting married, since its so easy to get divorced whenever something goes wrong. Which explains why divorce rate is pretty high now,.

When it comes to gay marriages, well, its not very common, and as far as I know, they have to be pretty committed in order to take that step. So naturally, the divorce rate is gonna be pretty low, weather they are gay or lesbians. I dont there is much difference in the numbers, given how recent the earliest gay marriages are.

good reply. low on hysteria. low on bandwaggoning. high on common sense.

[Ross]

I'm confused. I don't know wether you're asking because their gay, or because they're men.

:S which brings me back to my previous point... women are as much to blame as men when it comes to infedelity, it's not because men have a higher sex drive.

[Wildcat!]

Originally Posted by Ross

I'm confused. I don't know wether you're asking because their gay, or because they're men.

:S which brings me back to my previous point... women are as much to blame as men when it comes to infedelity, it's not because men have a higher sex drive.

I think he is asking weather the marriage between men, is more durable than the marriage between women.

[Crimson Dynamo]

Originally Posted by Ross

I'm confused. I don't know wether you're asking because their gay, or because they're men.

:S which brings me back to my previous point... women are as much to blame as men when it comes to infedelity, it's not because men have a higher sex drive.

how do you know that is true?

[Ross]

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

Well how do you know that is true?

how do you know it's true that men cheat more? on what statistics? you can't say men cheat more than women... maybe a few statistics dotted around the place say it, but on the whole they can't examine EVERY relationship.

sure, men are in the spotlight for cheating more ie. John Terry, Ashley Cole etc. (I'm using celebrities as an example here) but where's to say that everyday life among normal folk, the women isn't doing the dirty?


Forgive me if I'm wrong and I do apologise if I am but it just seems you are attacking homosexuals alot recently and hiding it behind ludacris debates.

[Crimson Dynamo]

Originally Posted by Ross

how do you know it's true that men cheat more? on what statistics? you can't say men cheat more than women... maybe a few statistics dotted around the place say it, but on the whole they can't examine EVERY relationship.

sure, men are in the spotlight for cheating more ie. John Terry, Ashley Cole etc. (I'm using celebrities as an example here) but where's to say that everyday life among normal folk, the women isn't doing the dirty?


Forgive me if I'm wrong and I do apologise if I am but it just seems you are attacking homosexuals alot recently and hiding it behind ludacris debates.

well if you can prove that then go ahead and list all my attacking homosexual posts

or better still report me listing them all and let admin decide

if you cannot then stop crying homophone every time someone disagrees or challenges your world-view

[Ross]

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

well if you can prove that then go ahead and list all my attacking homosexual posts

or better still report me listing them all and let admin decide

if you cannot then stop crying homophone every time someone disagrees or challenges your world-view

I've never once cried homophobe. That's just my view, you hide behind these stupid debates and yes this is a stupid debate.

Why do I think this because I replied to your post with almost two paragraphs in reply to this debate and you reply back with only a response to me simply saying you attack homosexuals.

You have just proven my point.

[Tom]

Originally Posted by Ross

I'm confused. I don't know wether you're asking because their gay, or because they're men.

:S which brings me back to my previous point... women are as much to blame as men when it comes to infedelity, it's not because men have a higher sex drive.

Men are naturally more likely to cheat, so can a marriage between 2 men work?

I guess it just comes down to probability. Lets say a man has a 1 in 2 chance of cheating and a woman has 1 in 3. That would mean theres a 1 in 4 chance of someone cheating in a male same sex marriage, compared to 1 in 6 chance for straight marriage and 1 in 9 for female same sex marriage. I think thats the point LT is trying to make.

[GhettoSuperstar]

I don't like the fact that (sexuality aside) people are assuming I would cheat on someone more than a woman.

You don't know me :/ piss off.

[Fom]

Originally Posted by GhettoSuperstar

I don't like the fact that (sexuality aside) people are assuming I would cheat on someone more than a woman.

You don't know me :/ piss off.

Thats annoying me too.. I know for a fact I would never cheat and I know lots of other guys with the same thought!

[Tom]

Originally Posted by Fom

Thats annoying me too.. I know for a fact I would never cheat and I know lots of other guys with the same thought!

You say that now ...

I've thought that in the past but got bored and ended up cheating

Never say never.

[Fom]

Originally Posted by Tom

You say that now ...

I've thought that in the past but got bored and ended up cheating

Never say never.

No I know I will never cheat, My dad cheated on my mum and I don't think I could ever do that to someone. If you get bored why not just end the relationship? There is no reason to cheat, if you are bored of the relationship get out of it don't go messing around behind peoples backs.

Its what cowards and pathetic men do.

[Tom]

Originally Posted by Fom

No I know I will never cheat, My dad cheated on my mum and I don't think I could ever do that to someone. If you get bored why not just end the relationship? There is no reason to cheat, if you are bored of the relationship get out of it don't go messing around behind peoples backs.

Its what cowards and pathetic men do.

Because you don't want to hurt them and cheating is the lesser of two evils when you're in that mind set.

[InOne]

I think Women are just as likely to cheat really

[Wildcat!]

Individually each one of yall have their standards, but naturally. Men have a higher sex drive than women. ONe of the main reason socially, is men are usually in position of power. But since society is equaling now, thats why more women cheat these days.

People also say men think of sex more often. I dont know how true that is, but thats what they say.
And pregnancy is another factor as well. Women tend to be more careful about cheating, because they are the ones who will get pregnant. So they tend to want it to be with the person who will be around. Of course, thtas also been somewhat nulified, with contreaception.

[Shasown]

You have taken a statistical average, that is regarded by some as the norm (men thinking about sex every 7 seconds) and applied it to all.

In a relationship that works something clicks between the two people, there is attraction between them and dependant on the relationship there is a mutual fulfilling of what the other person requires. There is also a compromise between them in some way.

Are you suggesting homosexual men cant fulfill the emotional requirements of thier partner, or that they are incapable of being faithful?

[Tom]

Originally Posted by Shasown

You have taken a statistical average, that is regarded by some as the norm (men thinking about sex every 7 seconds) and applied it to all.

In a relationship that works something clicks between the two people, there is attraction between them and dependant on the relationship there is a mutual fulfilling of what the other person requires. There is also a compromise between them in some way.

Are you suggesting homosexual men cant fulfill the emotional requirements of thier partner, or that they are incapable of being faithful?

Gay men have similar brains to females and vice versa, so using that its actually lesbian couples at most risk of cheating (if we're generalising).

[Shasown]

Originally Posted by Tom

Gay men have similar brains to females and vice versa, so using that its actually lesbian couples at most risk of cheating (if we're generalising).

Wouldnt know about that Tom.


Havent dissected one. (A gay male brain that is)


Yet!!!