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setanta · 13-05-2010, 03:49 PM

And I can't come away from what the intent was behind the name: In my eyes half will always mean less than full, not whole. To me, it's a derogatory term just in it's meaning alone so yeah, I have no use for it.

Tom4784 · 13-05-2010, 03:49 PM

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Originally Posted by InOne

John Agard - Half Caste
Excuse me
standing on one leg
I’m half-caste.

Explain yuself
wha yu mean
when yu say half-caste
yu mean when Picasso
mix red an green
is a half-caste canvas?
explain yuself
wha yu mean
when yu say half-caste
yu mean when light an shadow
mix in de sky
is a half-caste weather?
well in dat case
england weather
nearly always half-caste
in fact some o dem cloud
half-caste till dem overcast
so spiteful dem don’t want de sun pass
ah rass?
explain yuself
wha yu mean
when yu say half-caste
yu mean tchaikovsky
sit down at dah piano
an mix a black key
wid a white key
is a half-caste symphony?

Explain yuself
wha yu mean
Ah listening to yu wid de keen
half of mih ear
Ah looking at yu wid de keen
half of mih eye
an when I’m introduced to yu
I’m sure you’ll understand
why I offer yu half-a-hand
an when I sleep at night
I close half-a-eye
consequently when I dream
I dream half-a-dream
an when moon begin to glow
I half-caste human being
cast half-a-shadow
but yu must come back tomorrow
wid de whole of yu eye
an de whole of yu ear
an de whole of yu mind.

an I will tell yu
de other half
of my story.

I remember this from the Anthologies in secondary school, I didn't know it was an offensive term until then myself.

arista · 13-05-2010, 03:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Jessica.

How?

Education is better in London.

Jessica. · 13-05-2010, 03:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by arista

Education is better in London.

It is not.

arista · 13-05-2010, 04:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jessica.

It is not.

Of Course it is
and you find out how to behave on the streets.

Jessica. · 13-05-2010, 04:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by arista

Of Course it is
and you find out how to behave on the streets.

I know how to behave on the streets Arista. I've heard the education system in London and the UK is a mess, children don't learn to read until they are about 9.

arista · 13-05-2010, 04:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jessica.

I know how to behave on the streets Arista. I've heard the education system in London and the UK is a mess, children don't learn to read until they are about 9.

No it was a Utter Mess under New Dead Labour.

Its all change now.

Sorry to tell you this but Children learn younger than 9 to Read.

We are not Eire and we ain't part of the Bankrupt €uro.

If you want to Get on Fly to America,
London or Germany.

Sign Of The Times.

Jessica. · 13-05-2010, 04:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by arista

No it was a Utter Mess uner New Dead Labour.

Its all change now.

Sorry to tell you this but Children learn younger than 9 to Read.

We are not Eire and we ain't part of the Bankrupt €uro.

If you want to Get on Fly to America,
London or Germany.

Sign Of The Times.

The only problem with our education system is the Irish language is thought as a first language even though the majority of people don't speak it at home. If it were thought as a second language then a lot more people would be able to speak it. Other than that we have a very good education system.

arista · 13-05-2010, 04:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jessica.

The only problem with our education system is the Irish language is thought as a first language even though the majority of people don't speak it at home. If it were thought as a second language then a lot more people would be able to speak it. Other than that we have a very good education system.

I glad you can see what I am getting at.

Niamh. · 13-05-2010, 04:21 PM

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Originally Posted by arista

Education is better in London.

Excuse me! Our education system is very good here Arista, how the hell would you know what it was like???

Jessica. · 13-05-2010, 04:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by arista

I glad you can see what I am getting at.

I prefer Euro to having some old woman on my money though.

Jessica. · 13-05-2010, 04:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Niamhxo

Excuse me! Our education system is very good here Arista, how the hell would you know what it was like???

Exactly

arista · 13-05-2010, 04:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Niamhxo

Excuse me! Our education system is very good here Arista, how the hell would you know what it was like???

I have Been there

arista · 13-05-2010, 04:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jessica.

I prefer Euro to having some old woman on my money though.

Every Euro Money Nation
now Funds Ultra Bankrupt Greece.

The €uro is not Safe anymore.

Maybe you should use the Dollar.

Smithy · 13-05-2010, 04:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by InOne

John Agard - Half Caste
Excuse me
standing on one leg
I’m half-caste.

Explain yuself
wha yu mean
when yu say half-caste
yu mean when Picasso
mix red an green
is a half-caste canvas?
explain yuself
wha yu mean
when yu say half-caste
yu mean when light an shadow
mix in de sky
is a half-caste weather?
well in dat case
england weather
nearly always half-caste
in fact some o dem cloud
half-caste till dem overcast
so spiteful dem don’t want de sun pass
ah rass?
explain yuself
wha yu mean
when yu say half-caste
yu mean tchaikovsky
sit down at dah piano
an mix a black key
wid a white key
is a half-caste symphony?

Explain yuself
wha yu mean
Ah listening to yu wid de keen
half of mih ear
Ah looking at yu wid de keen
half of mih eye
an when I’m introduced to yu
I’m sure you’ll understand
why I offer yu half-a-hand
an when I sleep at night
I close half-a-eye
consequently when I dream
I dream half-a-dream
an when moon begin to glow
I half-caste human being
cast half-a-shadow
but yu must come back tomorrow
wid de whole of yu eye
an de whole of yu ear
an de whole of yu mind.

an I will tell yu
de other half
of my story.

We did that last year in our Anthology's XD

Jessica. · 13-05-2010, 04:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by arista

Every Euro Money Nation
now Funds Ultra Bankrupt Greece.

The €uro is not Safe anymore.

Maybe you should use the Dollar.

I like Euro, I don't care what it funds.

arista · 13-05-2010, 04:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jessica.

I like Euro, I don't care what it funds.

Sure looks good in Choco.

But as a Concept the €uro is now stuck in the bog.

Tom4784 · 13-05-2010, 04:45 PM

Don't engage Arista people, he's a windup merchant.

arista · 13-05-2010, 04:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dezzy

Don't engage Arista people, he's a windup merchant.

No I am not

And They Know me Full well.
Dezzy.

Shasown · 13-05-2010, 04:57 PM

In answer to the OP the caste system is the Hindu system of social status, the term half caste was originally applied to those of mixed European and Asian parentage, it was later extended to mean those of mixed cloured parentage.

It could be deemed offensive as when applied to people years ago it intimated that the person so described would not be accepted by either social caste. Technically an outcast. It could also be taken as being offensive to some in that its stating there is a difference in class between Asians Coloureds and Whites.

In some countries half castes are still treated as some form of outcasts.

I suppose really it depends on the context in which it is applied as opposed to a general context nowadays.

I hope thats helped with your homework Steph?

Stacey. · 13-05-2010, 05:02 PM

what is anthology?
we're doing it at school, but i'm too scared to ask what it means as we've been doing it for ages, and i forgot to ask before. the teacher has a go at me all the time

Shasown · 13-05-2010, 05:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Stacey.x

what is anthology?
we're doing it at school, but i'm too scared to ask what it means as we've been doing it for ages, and i forgot to ask before. the teacher has a go at me all the time

Have you checked to see you havent been following someone in a higher years timetable for the last few months?

ange7 · 14-05-2010, 12:42 AM

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Originally Posted by ElProximo

It is yet another term that is not actually offensive but some PC types made 'deemed' it offensive because they (in their minds) receive power and more authority the more 'offense' they can find.

In reality, you could have found the 10,000 times this term was used and none of them in any derogatory, marginalizing, negative or insulting way AT ALL.

I'm not saying its an awesome term and everyone loves it but it is not now and never was offensive in itself or in common use.

Basic answer - the hysterical PC correctness gone wild in the UK

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jGAOCVwLrXo