[Ella]

Originally Posted by teamandre

no if you read before i said except for speical circumstances e.g rape other things and yes its there body but it doesnt mean i have to agree with it does it thats my opion

But you said it's 'wrong', Who are you to decide what's right and wrong for a woman to do what she feels is best for her and her body?

[teamandre]

thats ture but unless there are certain cases thrn i dont believe women should be aloud to have an abortion they lay down and do it not using anything so pay the price of your actions

[teamandre]

i would but thats just my vewis if ya dont want a child then put someting on the end of it end of story

[WOMBAI]

Originally Posted by teamandre

i would but thats just my vewis if ya dont want a child then put someting on the end of it end of story

Contraception is not always effective - accidents happen! It is alright to be idealistic - but you have to be practical as well! Children need happy homes with happy, loving parents - of which there is not an unending supply!

[teamandre]

Originally Posted by WOMBAI

Contraception is not always effective - accidents happen! It is alright to be idealistic - but you have to be practical as well! Children need happy homes with happy, loving parents - of which there is not an unending supply!

yea i gess what ya saying is kinda ture

[WOMBAI]

Originally Posted by cupid stunt

nar thats a load of **** birds can take the pill, WHY SHOULD LADS HAVE TO TAKE RESPONSIBILITY ITS NOT US WHO GET PREGNANT IS IT

Not very enlightened are you? Of course - women get pregnant all by themselves - nothing to do with guys! You talk utter sh*te - you know that!

I am sure you must be about 10 - because anyone older would probably have more sense that to broadcast such ignorance!

[WOMBAI]

Originally Posted by cupid stunt

im 20 luv, just because i dont fall for feminist bull**** dont mean im talking sh*te

Nothing to do with feminist bull - just common sense - something you clearly lack!

[WOMBAI]

Originally Posted by cupid stunt

im 20 luv, just because i dont fall for feminist bull**** dont mean im talking sh*te

I wouldn't spout your true age, if indeed it is true, if I were you with ignorant, childish views like that! You just make yourself look all the more ridiculous!

[Shaun]

Pretty much agree with WOMBAI here.

[JohnnyBB]

10.10pm during the opening Million Pound Drop on May 24

[Shasown]

Scare irresponsible people shitless!

Graphic details of girls having backstreet abortions,

Show the worst cases of sexually transmitted diseases.

Show them being forced out of their leisurely lifestyles and the harsh realities of parenthood.

The boy looking at the pittance he earns on his wage slip and remembering the court ordering to pay maintenance.

The girl feeling guilty after her abortion.

[WOMBAI]

Originally Posted by Shasown

Scare irresponsible people shitless!

Graphic details of girls having backstreet abortions,

Show the worst cases of sexually transmitted diseases.

Show them being forced out of their leisurely lifestyles and the harsh realities of parenthood.

The boy looking at the pittance he earns on his wage slip and remembering the court ordering to pay maintenance.

The girl feeling guilty after her abortion.

I'm all for education on the harsh realities of abortion and parenthood for males and females - but forcing women either into or out of abortions is not the answer in my book! For too long sex education has been geared more towards girls, and although it is better than it used to be - still far too many boys/men think they don't have to be careful or take any responsibility because they don't get pregnant - it is about time they realised that the girls aren't the only ones that are responsible and not the only ones that should pay a hefty price!

[Shasown]

Originally Posted by WOMBAI

I'm all for education on the harsh realities of abortion and parenthood for males and females - but forcing women either into or out of abortions is not the answer in my book!

Dont women generally force themselves into abortions by not caring about the life they have created, the fact it will interfere with their careers etc, and by not having the common sense to ensure they dont get pregnant?

But once again you have completely missed the point in that post, the idea is to scare them by using graphic images of what happens when adequate care over contraception and sex isnt taken.

[WOMBAI]

Originally Posted by Shasown

Dont women generally force themselves into abortions by not caring about the life they have created, the fact it will interfere with their careers etc, and by not having the common sense to ensure they dont get pregnant?

But once again you have completely missed the point in that post, the idea is to scare them by using graphic images of what happens when adequate care over contraception and sex isnt taken.

Is ensuring they don't get pregnant then just up to the women, in your book - nothing to do with the men! A lack of common sense on both sides I would say!

I agree with most of the second paragraph! But what happens if the scare tactics don't work?

[Shasown]

Originally Posted by WOMBAI

Is ensuring they don't get pregnant then just up to the women, in your book - nothing to do with the men! A lack of common sense on both sides I would say!

I agree with most of the second paragraph! But what happens if the scare tactics don't work?

Whilst it is true that contraception is a dual responsibility, going by the track record of men would you say that little miss average should rely on the man being responsible, or until she is sure she can trust the man to have more than just 'a quick shag sod the outcome' attitude should she not take responsibility for her own body?

Yes a common sense attitude on both sides would mean women would insist on the man using condoms even if she was herself taking some precaustions, just like a man would insist on using a condom even if the woman stated she was on the pill/had a coil fitted, etc. If nothing else it would cut down on the incidences of STD's and also pregnancies as a result of contraceptive failures.

[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by cupid stunt

nah nah your chattin **** women can take the pill, speakin from a lads point of view sex feels 10 times better without a jonny so why cant birds just all go on the pill?

absolutely fine as long as you're aware that by doing that you're taking a chance and may end up paying child support, that's a chance you take by not wearing one

[WOMBAI]

Originally Posted by cupid stunt

nah nah your chattin **** women can take the pill, speakin from a lads point of view sex feels 10 times better without a jonny so why cant birds just all go on the pill?

Some people should legally be forced to have the chop!

[Captain.Remy]

abortion is the new black. Lovin' it <3

[Crimson Dynamo]

disgusting barbaric solution to carelessness

[WOMBAI]

Are you never careless - always perfect! No 10 minute knee tremblers then!

[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by WOMBAI

Are you never careless - always perfect! No 10 minute knee tremblers then!

Yeah people can be careless and make mistakes absolutely but some mistakes have bigger consequences than others. It depends how you look at it I suppose, in my eyes If you make a mistake like getting pregnant when you hadn't wanted to, you've made a mistake that will now effect a whole new person and you should take what you've done very seriously not flippantly say "Oops I made a booboo, not to worry I'll just abort it!" But, I do realise that this is my mind and what I think and maybe I'm wrong but it's just the way I think.

[WOMBAI]

Originally Posted by Niamhxo

Yeah people can be careless and make mistakes absolutely but some mistakes have bigger consequences than others. It depends how you look at it I suppose, in my eyes If you make a mistake like getting pregnant when you hadn't wanted to, you've made a mistake that will now effect a whole new person and you should take what you've done very seriously not flippantly say "Oops I made a booboo, not to worry I'll just abort it!" But, I do realise that this is my mind and what I think and maybe I'm wrong but it's just the way I think.

Personally - I would never take abortion lightly - I don't think most women in that situation do - but it is often the best/only solution for many! Many agonize over their decision - but it has to be their decision to make!

My post above was in relation to men having casual sex - with little or no thought of the consequences - but often being very judgemental about women doing the same! I strongly feel that BOTH sexes need to take responsibility! I think that today society as a whole would agree - but that message can take a long time to get through to some guys!

[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by WOMBAI

Personally - I would never take abortion lightly - I don't think most women in that situation do - but it is often the best/only solution for many! Many agonize over their decision - but it has to be their decision to make!

My post above was in relation to men having casual sex - with little or no thought of the consequences - but often being very judgemental about women doing the same! I strongly feel that BOTH sexes need to take responsibility! I think that today society as a whole would agree - but that message can take a long time to get through to some guys!

Well you are right of course they should but as a mother and a woman, from the minute I became pregnant with both my children I hoped that they would have good responsible fathers but I committed to look after and be responsible for them either way as I was the one carrying them and bringing them into this world.

[WOMBAI]

Originally Posted by Niamhxo

Well you are right of course they should but as a mother and a woman, from the minute I became pregnant with both my children I hoped that they would have good responsible fathers but I committed to look after and be responsible for them either way as I was the one carrying them and bringing them into this world.

You sound a very strong, level-headed person - with hopefully a good support network - but, unfortunately, it isn't the same for everyone!

[Ella]

Cupid Stunt, Maybe you should stop smoking so much weed and then you may not sound so ridiculous in what you say!

Some women can't go on the pill ect ect and you saying that all women should go on the pill is just very very silly! And FYI Women do not like being called 'Birds'..Jeeez