[WOMBAI]

UK's first abortion services ad created by Marie Stopes!

Views please.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/8693732.stm

[Beastie]

They were discussing this on This Morning, this morning!

Mmm.. I think contraception should be the key thing to invest in. However I hope there is a lot of information and numbers to call for help in the ad.. because not all people want to go to their GP.

[arista]

Yes goes out on Ch4 at 10PM soon


Good Idea.

[Spike]

I don't see anything wrong with abortion adverts. It's a good thing as long as its done in the right way.

[pinkmichk]

dont agree with the ad same way i didnt agree with the morning after pill advert but i'm pro life anyway so dont agree with abortion anyway

[Beastie]

Originally Posted by WOMBAI

Yes - I saw it as well! It was interesting! I don't believe they are trying to 'sell' abortion - just providing an information service for those that might otherwise find it difficult to access such information! I see it as a positive thing, not a negative thing!

Yeah suppose it all depends how the advert comes across on Monday night..

[Tom4784]

I'm not against it, It sounds like the advert aims provide advice rather then selling abortions.

[ElProximo]

A better advert for baby killing would be to show the young woman crying and very upset because the boy she loved did not stay with her because she got pregnant with his baby and/or convinced him it was his,
so,
she needs to kill the baby so she can try again with whoever will be the next young man she hopes to keep.

This advert should be always followed with the same young woman distraught, psychologically traumatized, hopeless in guilt and blame and even experiencing pathological mental illness as a result of the abortion,
and,
then the number to a psychological therapy centre specializing in her problems.

or maybe none of this needs to be advertised.

[teamandre]

i think the advert is wrong and i dont believe in abortions they are just wrong

[teamandre]

thats ture but unless there are certain cases thrn i dont believe women should be aloud to have an abortion they lay down and do it not using anything so pay the price of your actions

[teamandre]

i would but thats just my vewis if ya dont want a child then put someting on the end of it end of story

[ElProximo]

Originally Posted by WOMBAI

Withholding information - it just a form of control! Women/girls have a right to know their options! And what you are talking about is just emotional blackmail!

First off - the adverts are as much emotional blackmail as you can get but notice MY IDEA GIVES ALL THE INFORMATION.
It INFORMS them that a large number of women have emotional and psychological problems after aborting their babies.
Sometimes very serious ones.

But as for knowing options - the television is not the place where all information about all things must be transmitted and never was and wont' be. As if 'not advertising' cigarettes is 'taking away my right to know' and therefore 'controlling me'.

I'd like to know why being 'late' is such a problem. Children are awesome. The girl in the advert wasn't aborted. Neither were the people at this abortion company.
They claim to be doing some good things and claim the girl in the advert is good and worthwhile.
So you would think the same is true for the baby in her. Why is the baby a problem here?
I think its probably doing just fine and enjoying its growth and isn't bother by 'being late' or by being born.

[WOMBAI]

Originally Posted by teamandre

i would but thats just my vewis if ya dont want a child then put someting on the end of it end of story

Contraception is not always effective - accidents happen! It is alright to be idealistic - but you have to be practical as well! Children need happy homes with happy, loving parents - of which there is not an unending supply!

[teamandre]

Originally Posted by ElProximo

First off - the adverts are as much emotional blackmail as you can get but notice MY IDEA GIVES ALL THE INFORMATION.
It INFORMS them that a large number of women have emotional and psychological problems after aborting their babies.
Sometimes very serious ones.

But as for knowing options - the television is not the place where all information about all things must be transmitted and never was and wont' be. As if 'not advertising' cigarettes is 'taking away my right to know' and therefore 'controlling me'.

I'd like to know why being 'late' is such a problem. Children are awesome. The girl in the advert wasn't aborted. Neither were the people at this abortion company.
They claim to be doing some good things and claim the girl in the advert is good and worthwhile.
So you would think the same is true for the baby in her. Why is the baby a problem here?
I think its probably doing just fine and enjoying its growth and isn't bother by 'being late' or by being born.

Why is the baby a problem here?
its because of all them self centerd s**gs out there that think it is okay to get rid of a human life you do the crime you do the time its simple the child in side of the person has doen nothing wrong

[teamandre]

Originally Posted by WOMBAI

Contraception is not always effective - accidents happen! It is alright to be idealistic - but you have to be practical as well! Children need happy homes with happy, loving parents - of which there is not an unending supply!

yea i gess what ya saying is kinda ture

[arista]

Originally Posted by pinkmichk

dont agree with the ad same way i didnt agree with the morning after pill advert but i'm pro life anyway so dont agree with abortion anyway

Avoid Ch4 10PM.

[WOMBAI]

Originally Posted by pinkmichk

dont agree with the ad same way i didnt agree with the morning after pill advert but i'm pro life anyway so dont agree with abortion anyway

You are, of course, entitled to your opinion - but how can you justify withholding the morning after pill from women - that would just be anti-abortionists controlling other people's lives and forcing their opinon on others - not acceptable in a democracy!

[ElProximo]

Originally Posted by teamandre

Why is the baby a problem here?
its because of all them self centerd s**gs out there that think it is okay to get rid of a human life you do the crime you do the time its simple the child in side of the person has doen nothing wrong

One girl I know got pregnant after some one-night stand with some soldier she didn't even know.
Turned out he was married with children and a wife beater anyways,
but,
despite having nearly nothing for income and her own health problems she had a healthy little girl.
She loves it.
Sure it's difficult too and she doesn't go club hopping anymore because she loves being mummy taking her girl to school each morning.
Good kid too.. really bright cheerful little girl with a happy demeanor. Going to be a smart one too you can tell.

Anyways, there is the other side for those selfish people - children can bring them a lot of joy and fun and good feelings.
They talk like having a child is a problem and is going to hurt their feelings and they will lose happiness.
no.
They may very well become much happier, more mature, more confident, more fulfilled teenage moms with more laughs, smiles, and joys because of the child.

But you are right - almost always it is pure selfishness and people who don't feel they have any responsibility to their actions.
Thats what I heard anyways

[WOMBAI]

Originally Posted by ElProximo

One girl I know got pregnant after some one-night stand with some soldier she didn't even know.
Turned out he was married with children and a wife beater anyways,
but,
despite having nearly nothing for income and her own health problems she had a healthy little girl.
She loves it.
Sure it's difficult too and she doesn't go club hopping anymore because she loves being mummy taking her girl to school each morning.
Good kid too.. really bright cheerful little girl with a happy demeanor. Going to be a smart one too you can tell.

Anyways, there is the other side for those selfish people - children can bring them a lot of joy and fun and good feelings.
They talk like having a child is a problem and is going to hurt their feelings and they will lose happiness.
no.
They may very well become much happier, more mature, more confident, more fulfilled teenage moms with more laughs, smiles, and joys because of the child.

But you are right - almost always it is pure selfishness and people who don't feel they have any responsibility to their actions.
Thats what I heard anyways

Would you say the same if men were the ones left holding the baby!

[WOMBAI]

Originally Posted by ElProximo

One girl I know got pregnant after some one-night stand with some soldier she didn't even know.
Turned out he was married with children and a wife beater anyways,
but,
despite having nearly nothing for income and her own health problems she had a healthy little girl.
She loves it.
Sure it's difficult too and she doesn't go club hopping anymore because she loves being mummy taking her girl to school each morning.
Good kid too.. really bright cheerful little girl with a happy demeanor. Going to be a smart one too you can tell.

Anyways, there is the other side for those selfish people - children can bring them a lot of joy and fun and good feelings.
They talk like having a child is a problem and is going to hurt their feelings and they will lose happiness.
no.
They may very well become much happier, more mature, more confident, more fulfilled teenage moms with more laughs, smiles, and joys because of the child.
But you are right - almost always it is pure selfishness and people who don't feel they have any responsibility to their actions.
Thats what I heard anyways

And what if they don't! Do young girls not have the right to a quality of life! We all make careless mistakes when we are young - why should young girls be expected to pay such a hefty price for theirs! An unwanted child is a hugh, life-long responsibility! Not to mention the child has a right to be born into a loving home! It could turn out to be a nightmare for both!

[ElProximo]

Originally Posted by WOMBAI

Would you say the same if men were the ones left holding the baby!

I am referring to the men and the women here.

I really did know of a man left holding the baby. I mean we are talking almost immediately. I seem to recall there was actual problems with replacing the breast feeding (which he obviously could not do),
and,
yes, he was absolutely a father and just fully invested and psyched and had all these exciting plans for the kids.

I'd like to know what you make of the male who is not holding the baby (inside) when it comes to these adverts?
Is he informed?
does he get any say in the baby's life or death here?
Why not?
Will anyone stop 'controlling him' by withholding information about where he can go for the psychological trauma he may experience upon finding out his baby was killed?
What about him waking up in night terrors of his mutilated baby wanting Daddy to protect it?

What is your take on this - where do fathers rights come into this and why is the advert only about the mother and what she wants and doesn't want for herself?

[arista]

Originally Posted by Dezzy

I'm not against it, It sounds like the advert aims provide advice rather then selling abortions.

Yes Advice
is a Good Move.

[WOMBAI]

Originally Posted by ElProximo

I am referring to the men and the women here.

I really did know of a man left holding the baby. I mean we are talking almost immediately. I seem to recall there was actual problems with replacing the breast feeding (which he obviously could not do),
and,
yes, he was absolutely a father and just fully invested and psyched and had all these exciting plans for the kids.

I'd like to know what you make of the male who is not holding the baby (inside) when it comes to these adverts?
Is he informed?
does he get any say in the baby's life or death here?
Why not?
Will anyone stop 'controlling him' by withholding information about where he can go for the psychological trauma he may experience upon finding out his baby was killed?
What about him waking up in night terrors of his mutilated baby wanting Daddy to protect it?

What is your take on this - where do fathers rights come into this and why is the advert only about the mother and what she wants and doesn't want for herself?

Although I understand your point that in an ideal world the man should have a say - but the woman has to have the bigger say - as it is, as you say, her body that has to give birth and take the necessary health risks! There simply is no way round that! You can't cater for the wishes of both - if they disagree!

[Shaun]

Pretty much agree with WOMBAI here.

[JohnnyBB]

10.10pm during the opening Million Pound Drop on May 24