[Livia]

I don't know what a teenager could possibly think they have to offer a child. I'm sure teenagers on here think they're already well-rounded people, but I know the older members will remember when they themselves were teenagers and thought they knew everything.

I know mistakes happen, but not on the volume they seem to be happening, unless IQs have dropped sharply in the last couple of decades. While I don't think teenage mothers should be thrown onto the streets, neither do I think they should be instantly rewarded with benefits and social accommodation. I also think the fathers should be made to pay for their offspring.

[Ninastar]

Originally Posted by Novo

Compared to about 10 years ago the difference is huge... you could go to town and see a few people with pushchairs but now it's nearly impossible for you not to see one, what really gets me is seeing wasters who can't provide for the kids they already have get pregnant every year like it's some sort of chore when some woman who want a baby a lot lot more and for more genuine reasons can't give birth

Exactly, it just annoys me so much.

Originally Posted by Jordan.

My mum was a teenage mother and shes worked full time since she left school, bought her own house and was with my dad for 13 years and i'd say me and my sister have had just as good if not better upbringing than a lot of my close friends with older parents. It's just a shame now a lot of teen parents tend to be your typical orange slag. But there are a few good ones out there.

Like novo said, it's alot more common now. I think your mum is a good example of a teenage mother, but unfortunately there are very few nowadays.

Originally Posted by Niamh.

People have said (me included) that there are of course good teenage mothers. Again, accidents happen but the thing I have a problem with is teenagers who choose to have a baby when they don't have the financial means to support a child first of all and are really too young and immature to know how big an impact it will have on their lives, probably their parents lives and also a new babies life.

Yeah I agree. It's not fair on the child, it really isn't. I don't think teenage mothers think about that though.

[Ninastar]

Originally Posted by Livia

I don't know what a teenager could possibly think they have to offer a child. I'm sure teenagers on here think they're already well-rounded people, but I know the older members will remember when they themselves were teenagers and thought they knew everything.

I know mistakes happen, but not on the volume they seem to be happening, unless IQs have dropped sharply in the last couple of decades. While I don't think teenage mothers should be thrown onto the streets, neither do I think they should be instantly rewarded with benefits and social accommodation. I also think the fathers should be made to pay for their offspring.

Yeah it's just a tricky and difficult situation.

With teenagers, they hardly know who they are. In my opinion, having children is something you should do when you know what you actually want from life.

[Niall]

In some cases its really and accident so I guess it is what it is in that respect. As other people have stated in this thread before me, it is in no way ideal for the mother or the child as it just puts strain on them both but if the baby was unplanned and the mother decided to keep it then fair play y'know.

Its the ones that plan it all when they're still in their teens, that I don't understand or approve of. Like how they plan to have a baby so early terrifies me in the fact that I don't think they've actually thought through how much care, attention and time a child requires. It astounds me how some people in my age bracket can be that ignorant. I know that I wouldn't even dream of having kids until I was at least in my late 20s.

[arista]

Accidents - Very Few.

[fruit_cake]

I don't think single mothers should get extra benefits for each child they have, but somebody is going to work for our pensions in old age.

I do prefer single mothers to those who abort. I have very very strong feelings against abortion.

[arista]

Originally Posted by fruit_cake

I don't think single mothers should get extra benefits for each child they have, but somebody is going to work for our pensions in old age.

I do prefer single mothers to those who abort. I have very very strong feelings against abortion.

Keep Them Hidden.


As Woman have Rights
and its Legal to Abort.

[Sam:)]

My friend is 14 and is going to be a dad! He had sex with some girl without a condom because he thought a girl couldn't pregnant on your first time.
People just need to cop on, most of these teenagers think they are really 30 and capable of having real relationships,sex lives. In 90% of the cases it see's the teens life ruined, they give up education and forfeit any chance of getting a decent job, and then the teens parents end up paying for it financially and they will probably be stuck looking after the child.

[fruit_cake]

Originally Posted by arista

Keep Them Hidden.


As Woman have Rights
and its Legal to Abort.

ok I will keep them hidden

[arista]

Originally Posted by fruit_cake

ok I will keep them hidden

No You are free to State it
Infact there is a Gang on here that will back you.



Sign Of The Times

[fruit_cake]

Originally Posted by arista

No You are free to State it
Infact there is a Gang on here that will back you.



Sign Of The Times

what do you think about abortion Arista, are you in favour?

[arista]

Originally Posted by fruit_cake

what do you think about abortion Arista, are you in favour?

Yes I am.

Its Legal and saves so many Woman.


In America Bible Nutters Kill Doctors that Abort
this is the problem.

[MTVN]

Are you against it for religious reasons Fruit Cake, or just moral ones?

[Ninastar]

I'm not against abortion, but I can totally see why a person would hate it. I used to think people who had abortions were selfish for a long time, but only this year did I think about it more and how it would affect the baby if it were to live.

[fruit_cake]

Originally Posted by MTVN

Are you against it for religious reasons Fruit Cake, or just moral ones?

I'm against it for moral reasons, what about you???

[MTVN]

Originally Posted by fruit_cake

I'm against it for moral reasons, what about you???

Oh right fair enough, and nah I'm a big defender of Abortion, or the right to have one anyway

[fruit_cake]

Originally Posted by MTVN

Oh right fair enough, and nah I'm a big defender of Abortion, or the right to have one anyway

ok Matt, I can see a potentially huge 10000 page thread coming on so it's possibly best I don't say anything more at this point

I think when I was younger I was in favour of people's right to have an abortion but since I'm a bit older and had children that changed completely

[Jords]

I dont think its right to say those unplanned are 'accidents' because they know very well what theyre doing and know to use precautions (this annoys me so much CONDOMS ARE FREE). Its a risk that didnt pay off.

Anyway on the actual matter, some teenage mothers are great, other are appalling... but thats very much the case for mothers of any age. With teenage mums they have a lot less experience under their belt, very emotional and not settled down with a job in hand. But if they have a good supporting family, they do well.

I dont think its right to say 18 is too young (my dad was 18), I think thats probably the minimum 'ideal' age. Any younger and they are diving in well too fast and giving up their childhood too soon.

Having young parents though (my mum was 21) is really great in many ways and as well as teenage mothers having problems in certain ways I think older mums (40's) do also.

[MTVN]

Originally Posted by fruit_cake

ok Matt, I can see a potentially huge 10000 page thread coming on so it's possibly best I don't say anything more at this point

I think when I was younger I was in favour of people's right to have an abortion but since I'm a bit older and had children that changed completely

Ha yeah that's fine by me, I'm not that interested in getting into a huge abortion argument

[Ninastar]

yeah I don't want this to turn into another abortion thread either

I just like hearing different opinions on what I call a problem

[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by Jords

I dont think its right to say those unplanned are 'accidents' because they know very well what theyre doing and know to use precautions (this annoys me so much CONDOMS ARE FREE). Its a risk that didnt pay off.

Anyway on the actual matter, some teenage mothers are great, other are appalling... but thats very much the case for mothers of any age. With teenage mums they have a lot less experience under their belt, very emotional and not settled down with a job in hand. But if they have a good supporting family, they do well.

I dont think its right to say 18 is too young (my dad was 18), I think thats probably the minimum 'ideal' age. Any younger and they are diving in well too fast and giving up their childhood too soon.

Having young parents though (my mum was 21) is really great in many ways and as well as teenage mothers having problems in certain ways I think older mums (40's) do also.

I think a mother in their 40's would be far more able and prepared to cope with a child than a teenage mother.

[Marc]

Caitlin judging.

[Tom]

Originally Posted by Jords

I dont think its right to say those unplanned are 'accidents' because they know very well what theyre doing and know to use precautions (this annoys me so much CONDOMS ARE FREE). Its a risk that didnt pay off.

Free ones are rubbish, they split really easily. They're also only 98% effective so its not always that simple

[Jords]

Originally Posted by Niamh.

I think a mother in their 40's would be far more able and prepared to cope with a child than a teenage mother.

Able yes but I think there is likely to have less connection between child and parents and also Ive read its less safe for a baby if they are born from an older mother.

Im definitely not saying its wrong or anything, but it has its problems like teenage mums do just in a different way.

[Ninastar]

Originally Posted by Niamh.

I think a mother in their 40's would be far more able and prepared to cope with a child than a teenage mother.

yeah exactly. I used to think it was way better to have a baby at this age, but that was so niave of me. At 40 you've experienced so much more, you understand people, you've most likely worked for half your life. You likely live in your own home. Most importantly you are likely to have a job/career and money to spend on your children.

Originally Posted by Marc

Caitlin judging.

get out