[thesheriff443]

she is a great housemate and has been fighting from the first night they all know she can win and her so called friends in the house wont back her up in case the they get put in the fireing line as to backing someone up that has come from the inside gang when a member is having a go useally at deana they ask one another to back them to make thier point.

[Yayita]

She has been the victim of alot of abussive comments and actions done against her. There is a man in there whos sole purpose is to evict her, malign her and ruin her reputation and tries to manipulate others to do this for him. However, she has not behaved like a victim at all! She stands her ground, speaks her mind, follows her own rythm and nobody elses, fights clean and does it all while maintaining her composure and grace.

Simply put, she is a lady and until I see her change into something else, I will continue to support her.

[nana]

Originally Posted by Yayita

She has been the victim of alot of abussive comments and actions done against her. There is a man in there whos sole purpose is to evict her, malign her and ruin her reputation and tries to manipulate others to do this for him. However, she has not behaved like a victim at all! She stands her ground, speaks her mind, follows her own rythm and nobody elses, fights clean and does it all while maintaining her composure and grace.

Simply put, she is a lady and until I see her change into something else, I will continue to support her.

I agree, I think Deanna is a lovely lady and i was horrified and upset to see Shievonne playing such cruel mind games with her. I hope Deanna can see through it all but there is only so much horribleness (is there such a word?) that you hear before you think it must be true. I think Sara is also a nice person but is very intimidated by a lot of people in there and is not as confident as Deanna in confronting it.

[smeagol]

a victim is a victim you dont set out to be one you either are or you are not. you'd have to be blind to not see she has been victimised by some of thosevile creatures.
she doesn't play any card. she could of had conor removed if she truely wanted to play it. she could of claimed bullying like lauren and had arron etc out far sooner if she chose too.
instead she has stood strong tried to join in and not let it get to her. thats a brave woman. she has acted with dignity against all odds.
to play the sympathy card she would be crying non stop telling bb and evryone shes being bullied etc etc. the only times ive seen her say anything similar is when she is talking about why conor hates her as she doesn't understand his reasons. either do i he called her a asshole on the dance night for no reason and hasn't stopped. he has never spoke to her.
i wonder if people are watching all this show soemtimes or just watchin clips and making assumptions lol

[Yayita]

Originally Posted by smeagol

a victim is a victim you dont set out to be one you either are or you are not. you'd have to be blind to not see she has been victimised by some of thosevile creatures.
she doesn't play any card. she could of had conor removed if she truely wanted to play it. she could of claimed bullying like lauren and had arron etc out far sooner if she chose too.
instead she has stood strong tried to join in and not let it get to her. thats a brave woman. she has acted with dignity against all odds.
to play the sympathy card she would be crying non stop telling bb and evryone shes being bullied etc etc. the only times ive seen her say anything similar is when she is talking about why conor hates her as she doesn't understand his reasons. either do i he called her a asshole on the dance night for no reason and hasn't stopped. he has never spoke to her.
i wonder if people are watching all this show soemtimes or just watchin clips and making assumptions lol

For some reason all throughout history, people have always blamed and atacked the victim because it is easier than standing up to the real problem.

[smeagol]

Originally Posted by Yayita

For some reason all throughout history, people have always blamed and atacked the victim because it is easier than standing up to the real problem.

i think its crazy. ive never seen anyone put up with what she has and not walk or be crying non stop or angry or something more. she handles it amazingly and gets called playing the sympathy card. its just mind boggerling to me hat people can say it.
i wouldn't blame her if she did. everyone of the others would thats for sure they wouldnt of lasted 5 minutes.poor arron tried to play it as being bullied after adam pranked him lol funny that was

[thesheriff443]

Originally Posted by smeagol

i think its crazy. ive never seen anyone put up with what she has and not walk or be crying non stop or angry or something more. she handles it amazingly and gets called playing the sympathy card. its just mind boggerling to me hat people can say it.
i wouldn't blame her if she did. everyone of the others would thats for sure they wouldnt of lasted 5 minutes.poor arron tried to play it as being bullied after adam pranked him lol funny that was

so true look how that big strong man conor cryed like a baby saying im going to walk but not having the guts to do it.

[Gaynor186]

She is a lady and I like her, but has such insecurity problems she is easily swayed. The 'outsiders' have ALWAYS welcomed her; have never said anything derogatory about her......yet now she's considering turning her back on them because of Shiv.......that's soooo disloyal......and ugly!!

[thesheriff443]

Originally Posted by Gaynor186

She is a lady and I like her, but has such insecurity problems she is easily swayed. The 'outsiders' have ALWAYS welcomed her; have never said anything derogatory about her......yet now she's considering turning her back on them because of Shiv.......that's soooo disloyal......and ugly!!

my god if she is disloyal and ugly what does that make conor

[thesheriff443]

great minds think alike deana to win.

[sampvt]

Deana started the argument passivly knowing where it was going. She steered it into dark territory and came out the other end like a cool dude at the hands of a witch. Deana is a past master of this kind of argument. She knows what to do, when to do it and then as my other post states, she retires and soaks up the sympathy. If she was so good and won the argument, WHY DOES SHE GO AWAY AND CRY. Wake up to her before she makes you all look soft. She is a master manipulator and very like Aaron.

[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by sampvt

Deana started the argument passivly knowing where it was going. She steered it into dark territory and came out the other end like a cool dude at the hands of a witch. Deana is a past master of this kind of argument. She knows what to do, when to do it and then as my other post states, she retires and soaks up the sympathy. If she was so good and won the argument, WHY DOES SHE GO AWAY AND CRY. Wake up to her before she makes you all look soft. She is a master manipulator and very like Aaron.

How do you know what she's a "past master" of, did you know her before BB? all of them in there have been involved in arguments, alot of them have cried afterwards, because it's draining arguing with people, especially someone like Shievonne, doesn't matter how well she handled the argument, it will still take it's toll

[sampvt]

Originally Posted by Niamh.

How do you know what she's a "past master" of, did you know her before BB? all of them in there have been involved in arguments, alot of them have cried afterwards, because it's draining arguing with people, especially someone like Shievonne, doesn't matter how well she handled the argument, it will still take it's toll

Niamh every argument she has had she has come out of it looking like the victim. She has solicited so much support by being the underdog and All the posts have this empathetical vein running through them. That tells me she is mustering support by being percieved as the underling when it isnt true.

I kind of like her but there is nothing worse than a gameplayer that grows on the sympathy card line. It is as clear as day that she is a great one in an argument. Classy ladies dont argue, they walk away mate. Classy ladies dont carry gossip from one section to another. Classy ladies dont flit from one group to the other. Classy ladies dont make balls and let others fire them. Classy ladies dont curry favour by playing the underdog, THEY RIDE ABOVE IT.

If she would have these arguments then walk away and get on with her life, she would have my vote, but no, she has them then cries when there are loads of eyes and cameras watching. THAT MY FRIEND IS MANIPULATION.

[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by sampvt

Niamh every argument she has had she has come out of it looking like the victim. She has solicited so much support by being the underdog and All the posts have this empathetical vein running through them. That tells me she is mustering support by being percieved as the underling when it isnt true.

I kind of like her but there is nothing worse than a gameplayer that grows on the sympathy card line. It is as clear as day that she is a great one in an argument. Classy ladies dont argue, they walk away mate. Classy ladies dont carry gossip from one section to another. Classy ladies dont flit from one group to the other. Classy ladies dont make balls and let others fire them. Classy ladies dont curry favour by playing the underdog, THEY RIDE ABOVE IT.

If she would have these arguments then walk away and get on with her life, she would have my vote, but no, she has them then cries when there are loads of eyes and cameras watching. THAT MY FRIEND IS MANIPULATION.

She comes out of arguments looking like the victim because she usually is the victim, Conor and Arron picked on her relentlessly, take the argument with Arron, he started on at her because she had a drink when she said she wouldn't, so did lots of others but he chose to have a go only at Deana because of it, take the argument with both Conor and Arron during the eating task, yeah she did s**t at the task but they way they treated her because of it was just revolting and undeserved and solely because they don't like her, you never see them treat Caroline like that when she comes across far worse during tasks.

Classy ladies aren't door mats, and she can either chose to be a door mat or stand up for herself in a dignified manner as she can not chose to walk away when she's in the Big Brother house, she has to live with these people.

[nana]

Originally Posted by sampvt

Niamh every argument she has had she has come out of it looking like the victim. She has solicited so much support by being the underdog and All the posts have this empathetical vein running through them. That tells me she is mustering support by being percieved as the underling when it isnt true.

I kind of like her but there is nothing worse than a gameplayer that grows on the sympathy card line. It is as clear as day that she is a great one in an argument. Classy ladies dont argue, they walk away mate. Classy ladies dont carry gossip from one section to another. Classy ladies dont flit from one group to the other. Classy ladies dont make balls and let others fire them. Classy ladies dont curry favour by playing the underdog, THEY RIDE ABOVE IT.

If she would have these arguments then walk away and get on with her life, she would have my vote, but no, she has them then cries when there are loads of eyes and cameras watching. THAT MY FRIEND IS MANIPULATION.

I can't believe how you can be so biased against her! Why do you say that she is a 'great one in an argument' is that a bad thing? She is sticking up for herself for goodness sake!! Also,
- she is not 'trying to be classy' she is being herself and is trying to put forward her point of view when people argue with her
- she does not gossip from one section to another more than any other housemate
- she does not flit from one group to another, only to people to people she thinks may be friends!
Also I think many more people make balls and let others fire them (i.e. Caroline)
She so does not play the underdog, it is your very biased view!!

[sampvt]

Originally Posted by nana

I can't believe how you can be so biased against her! Why do you say that she is a 'great one in an argument' is that a bad thing? She is sticking up for herself for goodness sake!! Also,
- she is not 'trying to be classy' she is being herself and is trying to put forward her point of view when people argue with her
- she does not gossip from one section to another more than any other housemate
- she does not flit from one group to another, only to people to people she thinks may be friends!
Also I think many more people make balls and let others fire them (i.e. Caroline)
She so does not play the underdog, it is your very biased view!!

I think we might be watching different shows, my apologies, I will check my recorder tonight.

[jyunga]

Originally Posted by sampvt

If she was so good and won the argument, WHY DOES SHE GO AWAY AND CRY. Wake up to her before she makes you all look soft. She is a master manipulator and very like Aaron.

You need to wake up and be more realistic. You're view of the house is that 1 hour of air-time each night. They are in there 24 hours each day. There's more then just the agruments, there's the down-time with nothing to do, thinking about the agruments you had, wondering if you were in the right or if you were in the wrong, getting frustrated,etc. It's stressful and people are going to get tired of the bitching and want to release their emotions.

[Jords]

Originally Posted by sampvt

Deana started the argument passivly knowing where it was going. She steered it into dark territory and came out the other end like a cool dude at the hands of a witch. Deana is a past master of this kind of argument. She knows what to do, when to do it and then as my other post states, she retires and soaks up the sympathy. If she was so good and won the argument, WHY DOES SHE GO AWAY AND CRY. Wake up to her before she makes you all look soft. She is a master manipulator and very like Aaron.

Excuse me dont chat bull shes cried probably once in there after the DR entry with Becky, Arron and Conor.

Edit: Before last night of course

[Jords]

I honestly think people are not taking Deana's perception into consideration. Just look at the situation in her point of view. How are you supposed to feel... happy?

[Livia]

I worry that people actually think it's okay to bully someone, to single them out and verbally abuse them in the most disgusting way... and them claim they are "playing the victim card". Really? I think it's some of the others who are "playing the bully card".

[Jords]

Originally Posted by Livia

I worry that people actually think it's okay to bully someone, to single them out and verbally abuse them in the most disgusting way... and them claim they are "playing the victim card". Really? I think it's some of the others who are "playing the bully card".

or even more true to light, the "pack mentality" card

[Livia]

Originally Posted by Jords

or even more true to light, the "pack mentality" card

That's exactly what it is, Jords.

[Vanessa]

Originally Posted by rusticgal

I know she has had disgraceful things said about her by Conor and it has been nice o see her overcome that. Conors days are numbered and he knows it. However I think Deana is in danger of latching on to the public sympathy that she obviously has over her treatment by Conor and Arron. She has now rounded on Shievonne (although I'm not a fan) and is now accusing Lauren etc of not sticking up for her in the arguement. As yet I have not seen any of the housemates join in and support anyone in a verbal exchange.

If she is not careful it will backfire....cos I am starting to see right through her.

[Toxic]

How is she playing the victim card? Just because she's treated like **** that means she's playing on it? Maybe if people left her alone/stopped bitching about her she wouldn't be the 'victim' - such a dumb statement.

[Vanessa]

Originally Posted by Toxic

How is she playing the victim card? Just because she's treated like **** that means she's playing on it? Maybe if people left her alone/stopped bitching about her she wouldn't be the 'victim' - such a dumb statement.

She's not the only one who's been treated like rubbish. It happened to Lauren as well. And Adam by vile Caroline.