[kirklancaster]

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

Thing is some tesco goon in a suit will choose which toys go into boys and which to girls!

But Amazon do this too

Actually - you're right LT, they probably will, which makes a nonsense of it all anyway.

[Crimson Dynamo]

Thing is some tesco goon in a suit will choose which toys go into boys and which to girls!

But Amazon do this too

[Marc]

That little girl is a ****

[arista]

Originally Posted by Marc

That little girl is a ****

Its the Nasty Political Mother
thats wrong

[swinearefine]

holy ****ing **** @ anyone supporting this blatant sexism and ignorance of gender. The world is not divided into boys and girls - there is a multitude of ways one expresses gender, be that cisgender or transgender or agender or bigender or whatever. So this by nature excludes anyone who is non-cisgender (conforming to the gender one is assigned) and also arbitrarily decides what is fit for the boys and girls within this gender binary. Genderqueer youth and any cisgender children who just want to ****ing play with something not deemed typical for their gender are hurt by labeling toys like this, that's the point.

[Marsh.]

Originally Posted by swinearefine

holy ****ing **** @ anyone supporting this blatant sexism and ignorance of gender. The world is not divided into boys and girls - there is a multitude of ways one expresses gender, be that cisgender or transgender or agender or bigender or whatever. So this by nature excludes anyone who is non-cisgender (conforming to the gender one is assigned) and also arbitrarily decides what is fit for the boys and girls within this gender binary. Genderqueer youth and any cisgender children who just want to ****ing play with something not deemed typical for their gender are hurt by labeling toys like this, that's the point.

Do these other genders get offended by toilets labelled male and female?

We'll have public toilet blocks taking up all the space in city centres making room for every label someone takes a shine to.

[kirklancaster]

Originally Posted by swinearefine

holy ****ing **** @ anyone supporting this blatant sexism and ignorance of gender. The world is not divided into boys and girls - there is a multitude of ways one expresses gender, be that cisgender or transgender or agender or bigender or whatever. So this by nature excludes anyone who is non-cisgender (conforming to the gender one is assigned) and also arbitrarily decides what is fit for the boys and girls within this gender binary. Genderqueer youth and any cisgender children who just want to ****ing play with something not deemed typical for their gender are hurt by labeling toys like this, that's the point.

? I'm baffled as to what you're saying, and mystified why you're apparently so irate.

And I don't buy that any normal kid is 'hurt' by labelling toys, because I don't believe that the average kid gives a hoot what a label says if he/she wants to play with a certain toy. I also doubt that any kid is going to suffer deep psychological trauma, or feel sexually degraded or inadequate just because a toy is labelled gender specific.

I'm not even concerned whether they abandon labelling toys for Girls or Boys or Inbetweenies, or not - I'm annoyed at the B.S. reasons they're doing it.

Probably the same nutjobs who proposed abandoning names like Manchester in favour of Non-Gender Specific-Chester.

It's pure madness and also Much Ado About Nothing - in my opinion.

[Crimson Dynamo]

Thing is I want to go to Amazon and ask what is the best selling girls toy for an 8 year old, or boys toy for a 10 year old but they do it only by age

this is from page one of Toys & Games : 5 to 8 years

Creativity for Kids Fashion Headbands Kit
Mould & Paint Glitter Fairy Plaster Kit
Monster High Freaky Fusion Lagoonafire Doll
LEGO Friends 41058: Heartlake Shopping Mall
Play-Doh DohVinci Style and Store Vanity Complete Design Kit
Girl Tech Password Journal 8
Galt First Knitting

LEGO City 60051: High-Speed Passenger Train
Teksta T-Rex

But if you are buying the first six for a boy then you are seriously fked up

[swinearefine]

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

Thing is I want to go to Amazon and ask what is the best selling girls toy for an 8 year old, or boys toy for a 10 year old but they do it only by age

this is from page one of Toys & Games : 5 to 8 years

Creativity for Kids Fashion Headbands Kit
Mould & Paint Glitter Fairy Plaster Kit
Monster High Freaky Fusion Lagoonafire Doll
LEGO Friends 41058: Heartlake Shopping Mall
Play-Doh DohVinci Style and Store Vanity Complete Design Kit
Girl Tech Password Journal 8
Galt First Knitting

LEGO City 60051: High-Speed Passenger Train
Teksta T-Rex

But if you are buying the first six for a boy then you are seriously fked up

assuming a boy wouldn't want them, which you don't know. I would have adored the password journal and lego shopping mall <3

[Crimson Dynamo]

Originally Posted by swinearefine

assuming a boy wouldn't want them, which you don't know. I would have adored the password journal and lego shopping mall <3

we need men to defend the country not go shopping for crop tops and superdry garbage

[Marsh.]

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

we need men to defend the country not go shopping for crop tops and superdry garbage

Beat the puff out of them!

[Crimson Dynamo]

Originally Posted by Marsh.

Beat the puff out of them!

not beat

drill it out of them

National Service

identify
humiliate
jail


These are sensible policies that Ukip could adopt

[Dollface]

I think every kid should play with whatever toys they want to play with (my favourite toy as a child was clearly a boys toy and I loved it), but people saying that certain toys shouldn't have a gender associated with them are just kidding themselves


regardless of whether or not boys play with Barbie ^ she is still a girls toy imo & would be in the girls section of a toy shop

[Crimson Dynamo]

if your boy child has a barbie then its time to worry

[Marsh.]

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

if your boy child has a barbie then its time to worry

He might be using it to practise his "moves".

[Crimson Dynamo]

Originally Posted by Marsh.

He might be using it to practise his "moves".

that is serial killer territory


was that "he" more like a young Morsh??






you monster

[Black Dagger]

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

if your boy child has a barbie then its time to worry

I had a barbie... I turned out fine... well kinda, well...

[kirklancaster]

Originally Posted by _LucasMichael_

I had a barbie... I turned out fine... well kinda, well...

More details please - as many as possible... Answers on a postcard to:

'UKip' ('Uknow Kirk Isa Pervert')
69 Brown Raincoat Lane
Lurkington
Anysex (used to be Wessex, Sussex, Essex - anything but Middlesex)
England.

[MTVN]

Hmm I don't really see a problem with this tbh. Things will always be vaguely categorised and marketed more to one gender than another, for convenience if nothing else. Personally I think something like this: http://www.johnlewis.com/ideas-for-b...toys/c60000990 is just quite a useful way of narrowing a massive range of items down to a few things that your typical young boy might like. Obviously its not a black and white thing where all boys are only going to like one set of toys and all girls are only going to like a different set, but it is fairly easy to make very general categorisations.

In the same way you'll get a lot of places offering 'gifts for Dads' with typical things like beer glasses, golf memorabilia, football items etc. Obviously not all Dads will want these items and not all the people who want the items will be Dads. My Mum is actually way more into sport than my Dad so among sport merchandise typically targeted at Dads I'd be more likely to find a gift for my Mum. But again they are very general categorisations, its basic marketing practices not an attempt to enforce a binary segregation of genders.

[Marsh.]

Originally Posted by MTVN

Hmm I don't really see a problem with this tbh. Things will always be vaguely categorised and marketed more to one gender than another, for convenience if nothing else. Personally I think something like this: http://www.johnlewis.com/ideas-for-b...toys/c60000990 is just quite a useful way of narrowing a massive range of items down to a few things that your typical young boy might like. Obviously its not a black and white thing where all boys are only going to like one set of toys and all girls are only going to like a different set, but it is fairly easy to make very general categorisations.

In the same way you'll get a lot of places offering 'gifts for Dads' with typical things like beer glasses, golf memorabilia, football items etc. Obviously not all Dads will want these items and not all the people who want the items will be Dads. My Mum is actually way more into sport than my Dad so among sport merchandise typically targeted at Dads I'd be more likely to find a gift for my Mum. But again they are very general categorisations, its basic marketing practices not an attempt to enforce a binary segregation of genders.

People are way too sensitive nowadays. It's seriously getting ridiculous.

[Ninastar]

Originally Posted by MTVN

Hmm I don't really see a problem with this tbh. Things will always be vaguely categorised and marketed more to one gender than another, for convenience if nothing else. Personally I think something like this: http://www.johnlewis.com/ideas-for-b...toys/c60000990 is just quite a useful way of narrowing a massive range of items down to a few things that your typical young boy might like. Obviously its not a black and white thing where all boys are only going to like one set of toys and all girls are only going to like a different set, but it is fairly easy to make very general categorisations.

In the same way you'll get a lot of places offering 'gifts for Dads' with typical things like beer glasses, golf memorabilia, football items etc. Obviously not all Dads will want these items and not all the people who want the items will be Dads. My Mum is actually way more into sport than my Dad so among sport merchandise typically targeted at Dads I'd be more likely to find a gift for my Mum. But again they are very general categorisations, its basic marketing practices not an attempt to enforce a binary segregation of genders.

lol, thank you for putting what i said into smarts!

i wish i could speak better, but yeah, i agree with you 100%

[kirklancaster]

Originally Posted by MTVN

Hmm I don't really see a problem with this tbh. Things will always be vaguely categorised and marketed more to one gender than another, for convenience if nothing else. Personally I think something like this: http://www.johnlewis.com/ideas-for-b...toys/c60000990 is just quite a useful way of narrowing a massive range of items down to a few things that your typical young boy might like. Obviously its not a black and white thing where all boys are only going to like one set of toys and all girls are only going to like a different set, but it is fairly easy to make very general categorisations.

In the same way you'll get a lot of places offering 'gifts for Dads' with typical things like beer glasses, golf memorabilia, football items etc. Obviously not all Dads will want these items and not all the people who want the items will be Dads. My Mum is actually way more into sport than my Dad so among sport merchandise typically targeted at Dads I'd be more likely to find a gift for my Mum. But again they are very general categorisations, its basic marketing practices not an attempt to enforce a binary segregation of genders.

A cracking post MT

[Marsh.]

Originally Posted by kirklancaster

A cracking post MT

Would that be a female crack or a male crack?

[kirklancaster]

Originally Posted by Marsh.

Would that be a female crack or a male crack?

A Non-Gender Specific Crack -- but moist and warm either way.

I'm off to Toys R Us tomorrow to buy LT a 'GI Josephine' and a 'Puff The Magic Gender Confused Dragon'

[Kyle]

Nice one. Can't wait to use this angle next time I get caught in the women's toilets.

**** you electronic tag.