[Withano]

Originally Posted by Dezzy

Nobody chooses their sexuality. You're born gay, straight or somewhere in between and nothing can impact or change that.

People coming out later in life will not have chosen to be bi/gay, they would have just repressed that side of themselves.

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[kirklancaster]

Originally Posted by Dezzy

Nobody chooses their sexuality. You're born gay, straight or somewhere in between and nothing can impact or change that.

People coming out later in life will not have chosen to be bi/gay, they would have just repressed that side of themselves.

Exactly this.

[Kyle]

I'm just purely going off what happens to me but I can't change my sexuality at all no matter what enters my head so how can I expect anyone else?

[Crimson Dynamo]

Originally Posted by Kyle

I'm just purely going off what happens to me but I can't change my sexuality at all no matter what enters my head so how can I expect anyone else?

come off it kyle

£3000 quid and your ring would open like an unbolted barn door in a stiff breeze

[Kyle]

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

come off it kyle

£3000 quid and your ring would open like an unbolted barn door in a stiff breeze

I think that would be more down to the fact I have no scruples would it not?

[arista]

Yes its the Cells XY XX
you are born gay or bi
or normal


Sign Of The Times

[Pete.]

Originally Posted by arista

Yes its the Cells XY XX
you are born gay or bi
or normal


Sign Of The Times

?

[AProducer'sWetDream]

Originally Posted by arista

Yes its the Cells XY XX
you are born gay or bi
or normal


Sign Of The Times

[Ammi]

..I guess that I'm still getting my thoughts around sexuality being something that could be 'influenced' if that was the case that it was so...I mean I can understand the influence of 'stifling and repressing' ..for instance if a religious believe system of family/environment etc that would confuse someone because of the confliction with their sexuality ..so maybe something that they may even try to deny themselves for a very long time...but their sexuality would still be part of them and that wouldn't change, it would just make them unhappy and confused in their lives...?...

[Daniel.]

Yeah, anything other than what Dezzy said is just wrong and kinda ignorant imo

[Crimson Dynamo]

Whilst I do not want to connect the 2 in any way shape of form


it does beg the question are you born a paedophile?

[Livia]

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

Whilst I do not want to connect the 2 in any way shape of form


it does beg the question are you born a paedophile?

I think that whatever you are, it's decided long before you're born.

[Ashley.]

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

Whilst I do not want to connect the 2 in any way shape of form

it does beg the question are you born a paedophile?

Which I suppose in itself begs the question, can you help who you are attracted to?

[Crimson Dynamo]

Originally Posted by Ashley.

Which itself begs the question, can you help who you are attracted to?

No and its a tough thing but you can chose not to abuse children just to get your rocks off

[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

Whilst I do not want to connect the 2 in any way shape of form


it does beg the question are you born a paedophile?

hhhmmmm I would say not in all cases for this because you find alot of paedophiles were victims of abuse as kids themselves

[Crimson Dynamo]

Originally Posted by Niamh.

hhhmmmm I would say not in all cases for this because you find alot of paedophiles were victims of abuse as kids themselves

Or it could be that lots more people than we realise have these attractions but if you are abused you are far more likely to act on them?




ie it does not stimulate feelings but merely makes you more likely to act on them

[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

Or it could be that lots more people than we realise have these attractions but if you are abused you are far more likely to act on them?




ie it does not stimulate feelings but merely makes you more likely to act on them

I don't believe that no. I think that if you're abused as a kid it gives you a warped idea of what sex is and should be like

[DemolitionRed]

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

Whilst I do not want to connect the 2 in any way shape of form


it does beg the question are you born a paedophile?

Why would you even associate the two?

[Liam-]

You're born with a sexuality, you can't choose it, if someone lives their life being with one gender, then later on in life discover a fondness of the same gender, that's not them choosing to be gay, or developing gayness, it's a piece of them that has just never reached the surface before, like you could go all your life not knowing you were allergic to something, then one day discovering you are by accidentally eating something that causes a reaction, it's the same principle, it just takes some people longer to realise it than others.

[Kyle]

Ashley can you give us some examples of cases you think where people have actually changed their sexuality cos I just can't see it mate sorry.

[Ashley.]

Originally Posted by Kyle

Ashley can you give us some examples of cases you think where people have actually changed their sexuality cos I just can't see it mate sorry.

Beliefs do not require sources.

[arista]

Originally Posted by Ashley.

Beliefs do not require sources.

They way you are brought up?

[Kyle]

Originally Posted by Ashley.

Beliefs do not require sources.

They should at least have some empirical basis if you want to challenge others to believe it.

[Ashley.]

Originally Posted by Kyle

They should at least have some empirical basis if you want to challenge others to believe it.

I wasn't challenging anyone I just wanted to know what everyone else thought lmao

[Kyle]

Originally Posted by Ashley.

I wasn't challenging anyone I just wanted to know what everyone else thought lmao

Well ok then can you tell us how you have come to the conclusion yourself that you believe people can change their sexuality?

I'm not looking for an argument btw I am genuinely intrigued that is all.