[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by bobnot

I just find it really strange that anybody looks as sundays at some kind of special day where the rules should be different it seems so old fashioned and outdated.

It's nothing to do with the religious aspect of it for me, it's just trying to hang on to "time off" days at the weekend really

[arista]

Originally Posted by bobnot

I just find it really strange that anybody looks as sundays at some kind of special day where the rules should be different it seems so old fashioned and outdated.

yes Bob

its just another day

[bots]

I come from a background where Sundays were an enforced "family" day. Where as a child I wasn't allowed to go out and see friends. I resented that enforcement then, and I still look back at it with contempt. It did nothing to bring the family together. It artificially forced an environment that should be allowed to occur naturally or not at all. Family days should occur by choice, not because its a Sunday.

[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by bitontheslide

I come from a background where Sundays were an enforced "family" day. Where as a child I wasn't allowed to go out and see friends. I resented that enforcement then, and I still look back at it with contempt. It did nothing to bring the family together. It artificially forced an environment that should be allowed to occur naturally or not at all. Family days should occur by choice, not because its a Sunday.

I do get what you're saying but my fear is that if shops decide they're opening 24 hours a day 7 days a week, then will that then creep into other companies that normally close at weekends and then there will be no distinction between weekend and weekday and people will no longer have weekends off to spend with their families cos everyones times off will clash etc etc I love my weekends off

[Northern Monkey]

Originally Posted by Niamh.

I do get what you're saying but my fear is that if shops decide they're opening 24 hours a day 7 days a week, then will that then creep into other companies that normally close at weekends and then there will be no distinction between weekend and weekday and people will no longer have weekends off to spend with their families cos everyones times off will clash etc etc I love my weekends off

This too^

[Northern Monkey]

I think aslong as it is an optional working day for workers and they are paid overtime if they choose to work it then fine.

[user104658]

Originally Posted by Northern Monkey

I think aslong as it is an optional working day for workers and they are paid overtime if they choose to work it then fine.

I work 14 hours (8.30am - 10.30pm) every second Sunday (not optional) and don't get paid a penny over standard rate for it. Welcome to the future!

[Northern Monkey]

Originally Posted by Toy Soldier

I work 14 hours (8.30am - 10.30pm) every second Sunday (not optional) and don't get paid a penny over standard rate for it. Welcome to the future!

Yeah but you're the gaffer are'nt you?You probs get a nice hefty salary

Many moons ago when i worked in retail it was double time on a Sunday and only a 6 hour shift so there was incentive to work it.

[user104658]

Originally Posted by Northern Monkey

Yeah but you're the gaffer are'nt you?You probs get a nice hefty salary

You are misinformed of the financial situation of retail management

[Kizzy]

Originally Posted by Toy Soldier

You are misinformed of the financial situation of retail management

Lidl, you need to work in lidl.
Work in lidl buy your house, there I just sorted your life for you...now you sort mine






PLEASE!!!!!

[kirklancaster]

Originally Posted by Toy Soldier

I work 14 hours (8.30am - 10.30pm) every second Sunday (not optional) and don't get paid a penny over standard rate for it. Welcome to the future!

How do the bookmaker chains get away with this T.S.?

I suspect rules for Management might be different than for non-Managerial staff, but surely Sunday working is still overtime?

I'm no longer au fait with this subject now, but this isn't right in my book.

[user104658]

Originally Posted by kirklancaster

How do the bookmaker chains get away with this T.S.?

I suspect rules for Management might be different than for non-Managerial staff, but surely Sunday working is still overtime?

I'm no longer au fait with this subject now, but this isn't right in my book.

It's the same for all staff, it's simply written into the contract. It was written into my contract before I ever started there, staff who have been there longer were paid off (between 1 and 4000 each) to sign away their double time Sundays. That happened a few months before I started so when I was a newbie I was hearing all about their holidays .

I get 1.5x for anything over 39 hours in a week, but that's not standard either, I've just held my ground on signing it away. They're not even offering financial incentive. Basically it was all part of the same deal as double Sundays but some quirk in the system because of when I started with the company meant I slipped through the net . I'm one of only two staff members in the region who still have it. Makes me feel speshal . They send me a "YOU MUST SIGN AND RETURN" letter every year or so but nothing happens when I bin it .

[kirklancaster]

Originally Posted by Toy Soldier

It's the same for all staff, it's simply written into the contract. It was written into my contract before I ever started there, staff who have been there longer were paid off (between 1 and 4000 each) to sign away their double time Sundays. That happened a few months before I started so when I was a newbie I was hearing all about their holidays .

I get 1.5x for anything over 39 hours in a week, but that's not standard either, I've just held my ground on signing it away. They're not even offering financial incentive. Basically it was all part of the same deal as double Sundays but some quirk in the system because of when I started with the company meant I slipped through the net . I'm one of only two staff members in the region who still have it. Makes me feel speshal . They send me a "YOU MUST SIGN AND RETURN" letter every year or so but nothing happens when I bin it .

Good for you mate. Before I was self-employed when I worked for others, all overtime was paid at time and a half and double time for Sundays and Bank Holidays.

It's disgusting now.

[Amy Jade]

Originally Posted by Northern Monkey

I think aslong as it is an optional working day for workers and they are paid overtime if they choose to work it then fine.

That won't happen, it will be standard pay.

[Amy Jade]

I think they should keep to the hours they have now, I work Sundays in a shop until 4pm and after I spend time with my family, I appreciate going home at 4pm so u can spend a few hours with them and have a family Sunday dinner.

I am one of the new girls and the youngest on the department I work on so I will be the one who has to change to the later hours

[Amy Jade]

Also people have 6 hours to shop and in the store I work in, Monday - Friday it is 24 hours so 4 more hours a week doesn't seem like much to a casual shopper but to a worker it's possibly the only day in their week that they go home before dark.

[arista]

Yes Hog
it was debate Live on radio5
Great debate
one fella said its 2016
Everything changes its normal.

Any workers doing the Sunday shift will have Weds off.
For Example Hog

[Crimson Dynamo]

we should all work sundays and just have saturday as an optional holiday, schools also should be open on sundays

also reduce holiday leave to 2 weeks maximum

[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

we should all work sundays and just have saturday as an optional holiday, schools also should be open on sundays

also reduce holiday leave to 2 weeks maximum

no no no

[Cherie]

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

we should all work sundays and just have saturday as an optional holiday, schools also should be open on sundays

also reduce holiday leave to 2 weeks maximum

You are not big on family time are you LT, the mini LTs playing up are they

[Crimson Dynamo]

Originally Posted by Cherie

You are not big on family time are you LT, the mini LTs playing up are they

funnily enough largest girl LT was just texting me last night saying she had not seen me for ages

[Cherie]

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

funnily enough largest girl LT was just texting me last night saying she had not seen me for ages

I knew it Neglected

[Crimson Dynamo]

Originally Posted by Cherie

I knew it Neglected

I saw her at Christmas

[Crimson Dynamo]

when was wee no shops were open

there was no internet
no phones
no computers
the only thing on tv was worzel gummage and the antiques roadshow


we just used to wander off in the morning and comeback at teatime, all you could do was smoke, fight, throw stones, search for hedge porn and light things on fire

[DemolitionRed]

Where we live in France, everything is closed on a Sunday and the church bells ring out all day long, so even if your not religious, you're constantly reminded you should be.

I never go shopping on a Sunday in the UK, not that I'm religious but because I've always been in the habit of planning a family day. Its just an 'us' sort of day I suppose and anyway, by 4pm I'm starting to prepare a family roast and a jam roly poly with custard.