[Mystic Mock]

Originally Posted by Liam-

Like, if he genuinely doesn't understand what he and the cock squad have done wrong, then I'm a bit worried for the state of his and their brains, for someone to lack that much awareness and a moral compass, there's got to be something wrong with them.

Bear reminds me of my parents.

Lack of self-awareness, indenial, cruel, massive liar, and of course self-righteous behaviour.

In fact it probably explains why I'm not rooting for Bear despite me usually rooting for big characters.

[Lostie!]

Originally Posted by hot2go

But what a about the chorus of little voices on here who said Two Wrongs Don't Make A Right...when Bear upset Heavy after Heavy threatened him over the vandalised bed incident ?
Bear is just trying to kick start the Goody Goon Squad cause basically they're boring b-stards...and the best reaction they have is to first rise above it like food Christian folk do...and then try freezing him out..BB must wonder why on Earth they invested their money in these people.

But if it's something he asked for, how is it a wrong? And Bear is the biggest boring bastard in that house.

[hot2go]

Originally Posted by Lostie!

But if it's something he asked for, how is it a wrong? And Bear is the biggest boring bastard in that house.

I messed up with my phrasing...,I was asking why people who have been against retaliation are ok with silent retaliation ...neither of those points are my view at all...,I think they def SHOULD retaliate and I think they should make a better fist of it then just ignoring him....that is just not interesting to watch and it's weak. Like Bear said in first few days, Ricky is too nice ...and he is, it's nauseating to watch, no one real would be in that house with Bear and not speak out ...and when he sat with Bear saying he was fine about the coffee cocktail he wasn't being nice he was being fake. He should have been backing up Frankie.

[hot2go]

Maybe I'm the twisted one but this is big brother....but I love the conflict between Renee and Bear...and I love the fact the Aubrey can't stand him, it's just too bad she wants to radar her way to the final instead of winding him up....I loved Frankie going for him and I loved James pouring coffee over him...and best thing ever was Renee calling him and Heavy Dumb and Dumber....this is why I like the show....I like Bear, makes me laugh, but I want to see the others wind him up like he does them....I am so disappointed with most of them.

[Glenn-C]

Originally Posted by hot2go

Maybe I'm the twisted one but this is big brother....but I love the conflict between Renee and Bear...and I love the fact the Aubrey can't stand him, it's just too bad she wants to radar her way to the final instead of winding him up....I loved Frankie going for him and I loved James pouring coffee over him...and best thing ever was Renee calling him and Heavy Dumb and Dumber....this is why I like the show....I like Bear, makes me laugh, but I want to see the others wind him up like he does them....I am so disappointed with most of them.

Winding him up is exactly what they're doing by ignoring him though

[ThriceShy]

Well if the bully gang want to ignore Bear, that is fine. But let's hope they don't crawl to him to take part in any tasks with them.

He should refuse to take part in any and incur fails.

They can't have it both ways.

[Miranda123]

Originally Posted by ThriceShy

Well if the bully gang want to ignore Bear, that is fine. But let's hope they don't crawl to him to take part in any tasks with them.

He should refuse to take part in any and incur fails.

They can't have it both ways.

Bully gang ??

Thats so ridiculous its almost funny...........................only almost though

[dyfed]

Originally Posted by -Sue-

wow! really?

Bear has wound up antagonised almost all HMs 'freeze him out' is his own doing so they don't get sucked into his BS antics (that's all on him noone elses fault) we call it Karma.. what goes around comes around..

They may be quiet but at least they are not egotistical nut jobs in need of a valium and a labotamy! unlike Bear who appears to need both

As for the 'goody goon squad' this is NOT ex on the beach web cam pay-per-view etc this is CBB.. we don't want eejits we want fun.. drama fights... not perverts on parade for the sake of attention..

there is NOTHING celebrity about Bear Chloe Lew or Marnie IMHO.. they are simply a bad sign of the times.. where it's considered popular to have as much sex as possible drink so much they vomit and shag as many things that have a pulse...

I would take goody goody downright down to earth humour over these vile human beings anyday...

Look at past BB members Brian Dowling a prime example of a superb wonderful outstanding HM did he have to resort to being an asshole or getting his end away in the toilet to win? no.. he did it by personality alone .. THAT is what a great HM is.. personality the ability to make others laugh without being a dickhead

[rusticgal]

Originally Posted by Defizo

Winding him up is exactly what they're doing by ignoring him though

Exactly...he can't come back at them...he hasn't any control. It's the best way to wind him up.

[ThriceShy]

Originally Posted by rusticgal

Exactly...he can't come back at them...he hasn't any control. It's the best way to wind him up.

Of course he has control. He can refuse to do tasks.

[hot2go]

Originally Posted by Defizo

Winding him up is exactly what they're doing by ignoring him though

Yes it's a start ....but it's not enough really....it's a bit rubbish....and it's def not interesting for the show or the viewers....neither is going on strike and refusing to do anything at all....I expected more from Sam, James and the Americans who claimed they would be ruthless and are top of their game in this field of entertainment.

[ThriceShy]

Originally Posted by Miranda123

Bully gang ??

Thats so ridiculous its almost funny...........................only almost though

You are calling my post ridiculous after you called for him to be chopped up and shot?

[Tom4784]

I worry for anyone that truly believes Bear is being bullied.

[Garfie]

Originally Posted by Dezzy

I worry for anyone that truly believes Bear is being bullied.

And for those who repeatedly criticise Ricky for doing nothing or for being 'too spineless' to respond to Bear, yet when he did put Bear in his place, then criticised him as being out of order for doing so! The irony and hypocrisy of it all is bewildering, and that is why it is sometimes very difficult to take such arguments seriously and ridiculous to even pay lip service to such comments.

[y.winter]

Oh no... It's becoming an Helen edit, isn't it?

[power2thepeople]

He's a victim of his huge ego not being stroked by indifference and that's the biggest part of his person that matters to him the most. They won't keep it up though. Too many reactionary characters in there who will pass the point of dignity when he notches things up (and he will).

[caprimint]

Originally Posted by Garfie

And for those who repeatedly criticise Ricky for doing nothing or for being 'too spineless' to respond to Bear, yet when he did put Bear in his place, then criticised him as being out of order for doing so! The irony and hypocrisy of it all is bewildering, and that is why it is sometimes very difficult to take such arguments seriously and ridiculous to even pay lip service to such comments.

I don't think by calling Bear 'ugly' and raising his voice, it was a very good example of 'putting someone in their place'.

[vixenk99]

Originally Posted by Defizo

Winding him up is exactly what they're doing by ignoring him though

Exactly. All he wants is a reaction so by giving him none, they gain the upper hand. I'm a bit surprised that they haven't done this sooner.

[hijaxers]

'Victimized' he needs vaporizing , pulverising at the very least ! I bloody detest him and his trollop.

[Pete.]

Bear has sensed that playing the victim card at this point could buy him a few more votes... Luckily most can see through him

[Jan S]

Originally Posted by -Sue-

there is NOTHING celebrity about Bear Chloe Lew or Marnie IMHO.. they are simply a bad sign of the times.. where it's considered popular to have as much sex as possible drink so much they vomit and shag as many things that have a pulse...

I would take goody goody downright down to earth humour over these vile human beings anyday...

Look at past BB members Brian Dowling a prime example of a superb wonderful outstanding HM did he have to resort to being an asshole or getting his end away in the toilet to win? no.. he did it by personality alone .. THAT is what a great HM is.. personality the ability to make others laugh without being a dickhead

Originally Posted by -Sue-

I have to be honest I loved James back in the day but he has deffo mellowed in his old age or he is keeping quiet for the sake he can't escape..if it all goes pete tong... (eg walk away)

I could not keep my cool with bear at all.. if i was in there.. I would had hid his cigs... poured eggs / milk anything yucky in anywhere that would piss him off ages ago... karma.. and revenge

in a social group of any kind, if one member behaves so extremely as to affect all the others in a negative way, that person will become ostracised. they used to banish people, onceuponatime with bear, if he's ignored it's at his own demand and cuts off the oxygen his behaviour needs to be able to have the effect he desires it to have. since there are only a couple of weeks left, and he has his playmates, it doesn't constitute being victimised and he knows this as much as the next person.

i'd have gone and found his cigarettes and ''accidentally'' tripped up and dropped them into the pool. oops, silly me....

Originally Posted by power2thepeople

Perfectly sums him up and how and why the others would not enable or overly react to his antics. It's what he needs to be of any real interest. Either an enabling crew or the knowledge he can cause reactions which show others in a negative light. Showing no reaction to his infantile pranks changes everything eventually. The pranks in isolation with no reaction would become tumbleweed moments. I don't think the others will totally manage it and I doubt Renee will but without any reaction, he is a very tedious man child.

Originally Posted by Lostie!

But if it's something he asked for, how is it a wrong? And Bear is the biggest boring bastard in that house.

it isn't, he's just trying to milk it since they're cutting off the reactions he wants to play off to make it all about bear.

[caprimint]

Originally Posted by Pete.

Bear has sensed that playing the victim card at this point could buy him a few more votes... Luckily most can see through him

Since he survived easily last week by just being himself, I honestly doubt this is his thought process.

[Pete.]

Originally Posted by caprimint

Since he survived easily last week by just being himself, I honestly doubt this is his thought process.

Bear is the most aware of the public & trying to be so extra to gain votes so I'm sure this is all being thought through

[kirklancaster]

Originally Posted by hijaxers

'Victimized' he needs vaporizing , pulverising at the very least ! I bloody detest him and his trollop.

[kirklancaster]

Originally Posted by Jan S

in a social group of any kind, if one member behaves so extremely as to affect all the others in a negative way, that person will become ostracised. they used to banish people, onceuponatime with bear, if he's ignored it's at his own demand and cuts off the oxygen his behaviour needs to be able to have the effect he desires it to have. since there are only a couple of weeks left, and he has his playmates, it doesn't constitute being victimised and he knows this as much as the next person.

i'd have gone and found his cigarettes and ''accidentally'' tripped up and dropped them into the pool. oops, silly me....



it isn't, he's just trying to milk it since they're cutting off the reactions he wants to play off to make it all about bear.

Great comments Jan.