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It does not negate the need for protections for disabled persons using a service.
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Edit. Come to think of it, I had that before too when heavily pregnant with Skye. Another old woman yelling at me because I didn't offer her a seat...even though I was obviously pregnant and the bus was filled so why zone in on me... But yeah, I imagine some parents (not just mothers arista) are just selfish bastards who refuse to move. But again, as withano says, just how common is this problem? I never heard of it at all until this one case so its happened...once? It shouldn't happen at all, but this is hardly widespread.
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You make some good points Vicky
I was on the disability key scheme when I was fighting cancer. This allowed me to access disabled toilets when I was out and about. You have this master key which fits into the lock of a disability toilet. There are plenty of none key disability toilets around and before I had cancer, I used to give dirty looks to non-disabled people using that service. I now realize that you don't have to look disabled to be disabled. We should never judge a book by its cover.
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![]() ![]() It won't be all that common no as in the majority of cases there will be some compromise made, I'm glad this was a point of principle though.
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Another woman was getting quite gobby to the wheelchair user and telling her to hurry up as she was holding up the bus. Some other idiot shouted out that he was late for work - how uncomfortable that poor girl must have felt. The bus driver should have insisted the woman come and fold her buggy or put it out of the bus. Disgraceful. So yes, as per your previous post, it is an issue for wheelchair users. |
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I hardly go on buses if it can be helped, but ALWAYS give my seat up to others more needy when the need is there, to me that is just the right thing to do. When my two boys were young, I would rarely take them on the bus when they were below school age as I could tuck them up snugly in their pram/pushchair and walk a distance instead.
As Vicky points out, there are different circumstances that dictate who should be prioritised on buses, and I feel bad for you Vicky ![]()
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If you don't use a wheelchair then it isn't really your place to say a change isn't warranted. I would imagine those actually affected would disagree. |
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It's a tricky one.There is a bus route near me that i was on recently that is extremely busy at certain times.When i got on the whole bus was packed upstairs and downstairs.I had to stand and the driver kept letting people on.There was two pushchairs on and people standing front to back.If a wheelchair user had wanted to get on then half the people standing downstairs would've had to get off aswell as the mothers with pushchairs.So i think it should really depend on the circumstances.I don't think it's really workable to create strict rules on priority.It really should be left to common sense imo.
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The only 'change' that would make sense, is to have a specific wheelchair bay that cannot under any circumstances be used by anyone not in a wheelchair. This means no cramming extra people on the bus as some drivers do, no buggies can use it ever, no little old ladies with their shopping trolly things...nothing. Even then you have the issue of, its being occupied by a wheelchair user and another wheelchair user needs to get on.
And of course, doing this would mean that even more often than already happens, buses would drive straight past you...not through choice but by necessity. Unless money will be put into the bus services to put on extra transport, which I doubt. All in all, this case and the outcome won't change anything. Entitled asshats will continue to be entitled asshats whilst the option is there.
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Good to hear you think hardly any disabled people experience this problem - nearly 100%. So you know better than the disabled themselves and the organisations supporting them. Reacon you do - not! |
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It is ridiculous - crap services for extortionate prices.
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The problem is, unless its a London style taxi, most wheelchair users can't be accommodated, especially with the none fold up electric chairs.
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Registered disabled are usually entitled to a free travel card which allows them to travel for free.
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The taxi moan was just me moaning about the ridiculous prices of bus travel these days ![]()
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Thing is there are a lot of Chavs that use the buses - loud ignorant people who don't give a damn about others. These people are the most likely to refuse to move their pushchairs. I think that those that can drive will do so anyway. |
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