[Crimson Dynamo]

Originally Posted by Brillopad

Excuse me for not buying into that load of old leftist nonsence.

[Kizzy]

Originally Posted by Brillopad

Excuse me for not buying into that load of old leftist nonsence.

Ah well I'll leave you to wallow in the stench of your own ignorance then.

[Kizzy]

Originally Posted by Northern Monkey

I mean yeah.Obviously your statement is an inarguable fact.
However that does'nt make you 'racist' if you don't.
You may be for example perfectly fine with people from Egypt coming in but not from Iraq.

Predjudice is'nt always a bad thing.I'm pretty predjudiced towards radical Islamists preaching hate.That's not a bad thing.Calling somebody predjudiced is'nt necessarily an insult.
Everyone is predjudiced towards something.

I did not suggest it did.

Aaaaand we're back to Muslims again.

[Brillopad]

Originally Posted by Kizzy

Ah well I'll leave you to wallow in the stench of your own ignorance then.

I can say exactly the same to you. There are none so blind as those that cannot see!!

[Kizzy]

Originally Posted by Brillopad

I can say exactly the same to you. There are none so blind as those that cannot see!!

Yes I saw that earlier when Livia posed it, means nothing it's just another nonsense statement.
Unless you can put it into the context of the discussion don't bother with the irrelevant soundbites please.

[Tom4784]

Originally Posted by Brillopad

'Clocking'' as you put it could just as easily be described as paranoia. Just because you think you have 'clocked' someone doesn't make you right - you do realise that don't you. Your opinion is not always right.

Except it is, dear.

I live in a heavily racist area, sadly. I can tell if someone's a racist a mile off and it's easy to spot a racist that's trying to hide the fact that they are racist.

One solid tell is when someone gets more offended over the word 'racist' than the incident which prompted the use of it.

[Brillopad]

Originally Posted by Dezzy

Except it is, dear.

I live in a heavily racist area, sadly. I can tell if someone's a racist a mile off and it's easy to spot a racist that's trying to hide the fact that they are racist.

One solid tell is when someone gets more offended over the word 'racist' than the incident which prompted the use of it.

You think you can, not the same. It doesn't matter how many times you try to state your opinion as fact - it simply isn't.

[Withano]

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

thats is just a left wing slogan and has no basis in fact

you are just repeating what you heard, probably on tv

You think racist people are likely to be pro-immigration? I mean I'm all for supplying sources when they're required but this just needs ten seconds of rational thinking lol?..
And then my other point was not all anti-immigration people are racist? I cant imagine you have a problem with me saying this either?

So what was your problem with my original post? Just in an argumentative mood?

[Tom4784]

Originally Posted by Brillopad

You think you can, not the same. It doesn't matter how many times you try to state your opinion as fact - it simply isn't.

When did I say my opinion is fact?

Honestly Wombai, stick to arguing the points instead of making up and misrepresent what people are saying as you go along.

[armand.kay]

Originally Posted by Dezzy

Wanting stricter immigration policies does not make you a racist, it's the intent and motivation that makes the difference. Not all people that want a tough immigration stance are racist but all racists want that tough stance.

The whole 'if I speak out against immigration then I'm gonna be called a racist' is just a shield to discredit those accusations. It's simple to spot a racist and more often then not, it's not their stance on immigration that gets them clocked.

Say I was a white supremacist who's all up for white europeans coming through?

[thesheriff443]

What gives one human being the right to decide where another human being should live?
We where born on this planet we don't own it.

[arista]

Originally Posted by thesheriff443

What gives one human being the right to decide where another human being should live?
We where born on this planet we don't own it.

Money


Mercenaries take lives for money

[the truth]

Originally Posted by Liberty4eva

Seriously. That is the vibe I get. If I didn't want people from the Middle East to come to the USA would that make me a bad person?

that is what labour think, they label anyone who disagrees with them as either sexist or racist. Thats why they will never ever be voted into power ever again

[the truth]

Originally Posted by Dezzy

When did I say my opinion is fact?

Honestly Wombai, stick to arguing the points instead of making up and misrepresent what people are saying as you go along.

But thats what you do

[Brillopad]

Originally Posted by Dezzy

When did I say my opinion is fact?

Honestly Wombai, stick to arguing the points instead of making up and misrepresent what people are saying as you go along.

I suggest you re-read your posts as you were doing just that.

Could you quit your obsession with wombai - it's beyond childish and pretty boring.

[Tom4784]

Originally Posted by armand.kay

Say I was a white supremacist who's all up for white europeans coming through?

White Europeans aren't being excluded from the US though, it's not them that are affected by Trump's muslim ban and they aren't likely to be affected by those issues in the future. It'll be places like South America, Africa and the Middle East that'll suffer restrictions the most.

[Tom4784]

Originally Posted by the truth

But thats what you do

Saying that I'm always right is not the same as saying my opinions are factual.

[Crimson Dynamo]

Originally Posted by Dezzy

White Europeans aren't being excluded from the US though, it's not them that are affected by Trump's muslim ban and they aren't likely to be affected by those issues in the future. It'll be places like South America, Africa and the Middle East that'll suffer restrictions the most.

sigh

Its not a Muslim ban


Please stop being inflammatory

[Tom4784]

Except the order came from a promise Trump made during the election to ban muslims from entering the country, he stated muslims specifically. To act like this isn't a muslim ban is foolishness.

[Brillopad]

Originally Posted by Dezzy

Saying that I'm always right is not the same as saying my opinions are factual.

Fact!

[Tom4784]

Originally Posted by Brillopad

Fact!

Are you just saying random words now?

Opinions are never facts, that's kind of basic knowledge.

[Crimson Dynamo]

Originally Posted by Dezzy

Except the order came from a promise Trump made during the election to ban muslims from entering the country, he stated muslims specifically. To act like this isn't a muslim ban is foolishness.

Incorrect the countries on the list were obama picked and a Indonesia is not on the ban, the country withy the most muslims

The vast majority of the world's muslims are not on the order


So to call it a muslim ban is inflammatory. It is a temporary restriction on incoming immigrants from certain high risk countries that have proven they themselves are, or are willing to harbour groups that, are a known threat to the safety of the people of the United States.

please try to stick to facts

[Kizzy]

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

Incorrect the countries on the list were obama picked and a Indonesia is not on the ban, the country withy the most muslims

The vast majority of the world's muslims are not on the order


So to call it a muslim ban is inflammatory. It is a temporary restriction on incoming immigrants from certain high risk countries that have proven they themselves are, or are willing to harbour groups that, are a known threat to the safety of the people of the United States.

please try to stick to facts

Have you heard of home grown terrorism? It is actions like this that add to pressure and divisions that lead to disaffection and radicalisation.

[Brillopad]

Originally Posted by Kizzy

Have you heard of home grown terrorism? It is actions like this that add to pressure and divisions that lead to disaffection and radicalisation.

Without immigration we would have no homegrown terrorism. The more immigration the more home grown terrorism.

[Livia]

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

Incorrect the countries on the list were obama picked and a Indonesia is not on the ban, the country withy the most muslims

The vast majority of the world's muslims are not on the order


So to call it a muslim ban is inflammatory. It is a temporary restriction on incoming immigrants from certain high risk countries that have proven they themselves are, or are willing to harbour groups that, are a known threat to the safety of the people of the United States.

please try to stick to facts

It's only a problem because it's the USA. No one's got a problem with Japan's policy and it's virtually the same as the USA only it's been in place longer.