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02-04-2017, 09:56 PM | #26 | ||
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02-04-2017, 11:04 PM | #27 | |||
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It's a pathetic attempt to hang on tooth and claw to our colonialist past, we didn't have this hoo ha over Hong Kong...because we wouldn't effing DARE!
You want out of the EU fine! Give Spain it's bloody rock back an foff!
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03-04-2017, 12:13 AM | #28 | |||
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So they can treat them like Catalonia?
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03-04-2017, 12:14 AM | #29 | |||
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We will go to war for Gibraltar. No-one will take our beloved rock!
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03-04-2017, 05:25 AM | #30 | |||
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It is about respecting the rights of the people who live there. Don't they have the same rights as the Scots in your opinion?
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03-04-2017, 07:32 AM | #31 | |||
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03-04-2017, 07:52 AM | #32 | ||
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Thing is, whether this is true or not, it doesn't invalidate the comparison to Hong Kong. IIRC most of the people there didn't want to go back to Chinese rule but it was effectively... Tough poop.
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03-04-2017, 08:03 AM | #33 | ||
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The views of those living there don't really matter so much very sadly. |
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03-04-2017, 09:07 AM | #34 | |||
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I love how less than a week since article 50 being triggered, there is open conversations from politicians about going to war The UK is a JOKE
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03-04-2017, 09:41 AM | #35 | |||
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It is an entirely different matter since Hong Kong was only leased to the UK until 1997.
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03-04-2017, 09:43 AM | #36 | |||
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If you are referring to Hong Kong it was leased to us and the lease ran out.
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03-04-2017, 09:45 AM | #37 | |||
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That sounds horrible, to lease out a persons homeland to another country. Gross.
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03-04-2017, 09:51 AM | #38 | |||
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Attitudes in the past when these kind of agreements and treaties were made were very different. I think the UK did own part of the island but 90% of the land of Hong Kong was part of the lease which was also tied up in an international treaty so there wasn't much choice but to leave Hong Kong.
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03-04-2017, 09:53 AM | #39 | |||
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If the people of Gibralter want to remain Britigh, it's not your call to say they can't. |
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03-04-2017, 09:53 AM | #40 | |||
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At the time I think the 99 year lease was symbolic really and a way of allowing China's rulers to save face, back then it wasn't thought that Hong Kong would actually return to China after that time but obviously the UK and China were very different countries in the 1980s than they were in 1890s
Not sure why its considered colonial of the UK to defend Gibraltar's British status given the strength of feeling there that they want to remain British. There is next to zero will in Gibraltar to return to Spanish rule despite the Brexit vote and surely Spain is the one with colonial pretensions in trying to claim the land |
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03-04-2017, 09:54 AM | #41 | |||
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Of course that has nothing to do with the conditions attached to the agreements signed with Spain concerning the retention of overseas territories, that may be a more complex issue.
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03-04-2017, 09:55 AM | #42 | ||
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As for Gibraltar,as long as those living there support being part of the UK. That's fine but their overwhelming view on the EU,and they are far closer to mainland Europe,that doesn't matter a jot to The UK govt or some voters of The UK either. Selective support and consideration comes to mind. Last edited by joeysteele; 03-04-2017 at 10:51 AM. |
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03-04-2017, 09:57 AM | #43 | |||
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Ok calm down, I didn't say it was my call... I'm having my say in the debate is all.
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03-04-2017, 09:59 AM | #44 | |||
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03-04-2017, 10:03 AM | #45 | |||
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Our PM can't get her head around our constitutional obligations so some treaty will be of no interest whatsoever.
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03-04-2017, 10:07 AM | #46 | |||
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03-04-2017, 10:08 AM | #47 | |||
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You really don't know how lucky you are to be British. You should read more.
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03-04-2017, 10:13 AM | #48 | |||
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I did...
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03-04-2017, 10:17 AM | #49 | |||
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Well one politician mentioned that it's around the anniversary of 35 years for the falklands war and that this female prime minister he was sure would defend Gibraltar as strongly as another had the Falklands. Of course typically the remark is taken out of context for sensationalism.
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