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Old 14-11-2019, 05:21 PM #1
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How come this thread ain't fallen into a funny word switch game yet.
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Well done Disney.

Bigotry should be addressed
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Its not about bigotry its about racism as seen today but at the time not intended as such
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Its not about bigotry its about racism as seen today but at the time not intended as such
Was it intended as a compliment?

It's the same cancer, pure hate from people who have nothing positive to offer
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Was it intended as a compliment?

It's the same cancer, pure hate from people who have nothing positive to offer
no it is not it is different and has nothing to do with this thread
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Its not about bigotry its about racism as seen today but at the time not intended as such
It was literally intended at the time as a crude stereotype which is a form of racism, lol.

That said, it's important these things aren't edited out of the originals because it provides a context into just how prevalent these stereotypes and offensive caricatures were up until extremely recent times.

Edit: look at Mickey Rooney in Breakfast at Tiffany's. Extremely offensive, and yet it hasn't done any damage to the film's reputation by being kept in. It's just a small window into a society that used to be far more racist in the 50s than it is now.
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It was literally intended at the time as a crude stereotype which is a form of racism, lol.

That said, it's important these things aren't edited out of the originals because it provides a context into just how prevalent these stereotypes and offensive caricatures were up until extremely recent times.

Edit: look at Mickey Rooney in Breakfast at Tiffany's. Extremely offensive, and yet it hasn't done any damage to the film's reputation by being kept in. It's just a small window into a society that used to be far more racist in the 50s than it is now.
quite but is important for the young people to realise that back then is not the same as now - ie these movies were not made in a society that reflects 2019 and that had they been born back there they would not have noticed, if that makes sense

hopefully that is what parents are for
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quite but is important for the young people to realise that back then is not the same as now - ie these movies were not made in a society that reflects 2019 and that had they been born back there they would not have noticed, if that makes sense

hopefully that is what parents are for
True, but isn't that basically what this warning does? Differentiate between then and now?
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quite but is important for the young people to realise that back then is not the same as now - ie these movies were not made in a society that reflects 2019 and that had they been born back there they would not have noticed, if that makes sense

hopefully that is what parents are for
Thats the point of the warning.

EDIT: SHaun beat me to it.
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Disney a gay friendly, anti racism company. Great example for kids
Daily Heil and alt right will be fuming
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It's actually a good idea I don't really understand the backlash
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It's just a warning placed at the start of the content, its not like they've butchered it to fit modern standards.
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Don't see the problem with an indication, just like any family movie warns of sex references etc.

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The same thing happened with Tom & Jerry dvd collections iirc. Whoppi Goldberg provided a disclaimer at the beginning warning of the racially insensitive content and whilst they are wholly unexceptable in todays society, to remove them would be attempting to wash over that such stereotypes existed.
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The same thing happened with Tom & Jerry dvd collections iirc. Whoppi Goldberg provided a disclaimer at the beginning warning of the racially insensitive content and whilst they are wholly unexceptable in todays society, to remove them would be attempting to wash over that such stereotypes existed.
I agree.
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Pc gone mad to its totally acceptable in less than a day..That's real progress
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I watch a lot of old films on Talking Pictures TV and nine times out of ten there is a warning about outdated language or something. It has never detracted from my enjoyment. I would rather have that than include inappropriate characters. For instance... I've seen a black guardsman during Queen Victoria's reign, I've seen black people in positions of power 100 years ago. To me that's just like pretending things were always fine for black people... and that isn't the case, and taking political correctness to that kind of length, to me, is trying to change history and the struggle black people had back then.

That said... Can Hollywood stop portraying the English and the Germans as crooks. If there's a megalomaniac set on world domination, they're either English or German.

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