[user104658]

Originally Posted by Dezzy

Paedophilia is not a sexuality, it's a fetish and one that is rooted in the abuse of children. It's like saying that beastiality and necrophillia are sexualities, they are not.

It really bothers me how peados are trying to co-opt the LGBT message to encourage acceptance of their abuses, I've read a lot of stories over the years of peadophiles trying to spread their messages at pride parades and events and **** and it just makes me want to vomit. Predators trying to normalise their behaviour by comparing it to same-sex relationships between consenting adults.

Again for the back seats, Peadophillia is not a sexuality.

I agree however most fetishes are benign and perfectly acceptable with other consenting adults so I don't think even calling it a fetish is helpful. Most fetishes pose no risk of harm.

It also opens up an absolutely massive can of worms in the trans debate because (duck and cover) - there is true trans rights stuff that concerns actual transexuals and gender identity, and then there is a side of trans that is heavily sexualised and a clear fetish. That's a topic that is absolutely RED hot, of course.

[Tom4784]

Originally Posted by Toy Soldier

I agree however most fetishes are benign and perfectly acceptable with other consenting adults so I don't think even calling it a fetish is helpful. Most fetishes pose no risk of harm.

It also opens up an absolutely massive can of worms in the trans debate because (duck and cover) - there is true trans rights stuff that concerns actual transexuals and gender identity, and then there is a side of trans that is heavily sexualised and a clear fetish. That's a topic that is absolutely RED hot, of course.

Fetish was the only word I could think of to describe it. I don't think it's particularly a bad thing to describe it as a fetish since not all fetishes are benign. There's a lot of dark fetishes out there that simply are not acceptable. If there's a better word for it then I'd gladly call it that.

[GoldHeart]

Fetish is a terrible way to describe it , it's a sick perversion more like ! .

Despite the many weird fetishes out there it's still consenting adults or meant to be ,Whereas paedophilia IS NOT ! .

Regarding the darker disturbing "fetishes" , surely those aren't legal anyway .

[user104658]

Originally Posted by Dezzy

Fetish was the only word I could think of to describe it. I don't think it's particularly a bad thing to describe it as a fetish since not all fetishes are benign. There's a lot of dark fetishes out there that simply are not acceptable. If there's a better word for it then I'd gladly call it that.

Well again the only real issue is consent and legality, people argue when it comes to things like consensual snuff films... ... but it's pretty well established legally that no one can consent to being killed so even that's covered.

I've seen some pretty dark stuff where it's really beyond comprehension but... it's consenting adults involved and they're only causing harm to themselves so... each to their own I guess.

[Oliver_W]

Originally Posted by Dezzy

Paedophilia is not a sexuality, it's a fetish and one that is rooted in the abuse of children. It's like saying that beastiality and necrophillia are sexualities, they are not.

It really bothers me how peados are trying to co-opt the LGBT message to encourage acceptance of their abuses, I've read a lot of stories over the years of peadophiles trying to spread their messages at pride parades and events and **** and it just makes me want to vomit. Predators trying to normalise their behaviour by comparing it to same-sex relationships between consenting adults.

Again for the back seats, Peadophillia is not a sexuality.

Absolutely. Molesters should just be put down, in my opinion.

I hate when paedos try to attach themselves to LGBT movements. Any gays who even consider sharing a molecule of an olive branch when it comes to that need to have a word with themselves.

[Cal.]

Originally Posted by Dezzy

Paedophilia is not a sexuality, it's a fetish and one that is rooted in the abuse of children. It's like saying that beastiality and necrophillia are sexualities, they are not.

It really bothers me how peados are trying to co-opt the LGBT message to encourage acceptance of their abuses, I've read a lot of stories over the years of peadophiles trying to spread their messages at pride parades and events and **** and it just makes me want to vomit. Predators trying to normalise their behaviour by comparing it to same-sex relationships between consenting adults.

Again for the back seats, Peadophillia is not a sexuality.

Agreed!

[Jigs]

Originally Posted by Dezzy

Paedophilia is not a sexuality, it's a fetish and one that is rooted in the abuse of children. It's like saying that beastiality and necrophillia are sexualities, they are not.

It really bothers me how peados are trying to co-opt the LGBT message to encourage acceptance of their abuses, I've read a lot of stories over the years of peadophiles trying to spread their messages at pride parades and events and **** and it just makes me want to vomit. Predators trying to normalise their behaviour by comparing it to same-sex relationships between consenting adults.

Again for the back seats, Peadophillia is not a sexuality.

Yeah, all of this.

Paedophilia isn't a sexuality. Men who are attracted to blonde women do not cite that as their "sexuality". It's a fetish.

Like bestiality and necrophilia, paedophilia will always be frowned upon because in order to have sexual intercourse without breaking any laws you need to do it with someone who is able to consent to it. Children, animals and corpses can't give that consent so it's never going to be a simple case of "let's abolish the stigma so we can live out our fantasies legally!".

[armand.kay]

That caption with that picture is so disgusting to me..

[arista]

Originally Posted by Josy

Click the attachment and post your opinion on this?

Fb have been removing posts and images about Mainstream media turning a blind eye to pedophiles yet they say things like this image dont need to be removed.

I find it absolutely horrific and this claim that it's a natural sexual orientation needs stopped ASAP, it's a pathetic attempt to desensitise the public to that behaviour in order to normalise pedophilia.

Theres is nothing normal about it, an adult attracted to another adult is natural, an adult attracted to a child is a ****ing abomination.

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Josy how do we know
this is not a remix photo - post?

[Parmy]

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/p...-a6965956.html


This.

[Smithy]

Originally Posted by parmnion

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/p...-a6965956.html


This.

So you agree with the Facebook group that it’s an orientation?

[Parmy]

Originally Posted by Smithy

So you agree with the Facebook group that it’s an orientation?

I agree with the criminal psychologist.

[Glenn.]

Originally Posted by parmnion

I agree with the criminal psychologist.

So you agree that it’s an orientation then

[Parmy]

Originally Posted by Glenn.

So you agree that it’s an orientation then

Yes...but not in all cases.

[Captain.Remy]

As problematic as their issues with removing racism/homophobia/sexism content.

[Jack_]

The word you’re looking for is paraphilia

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_paraphilias

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paraphilia

[Jessica.]

I think those people are very ill and should be in some kind of institution to protect themselves and others from harm. People trying to normalise it are the most disgusting of all.

[Parmy]

The sadists aren't as it's not the child they are drawn to, it's the desire to inflict pain and suffering that turns them on.

But in general I believe a paedo is drawn and attracted to children, just the same way men are to women, women to men etc etc.

Dont you think that's true?

[user104658]

Originally Posted by parmnion

The sadists aren't as it's not the child they are drawn to, it's the desire to inflict pain and suffering that turns them on.

But in general I believe a paedo is drawn and attracted to children, just the same way men are to women, women to men etc etc.

Dont you think that's true?

I think it's extremely rare for an element of it being the power dynamic (rather, the powerlessness) of the child so no, it's not like adult attraction, though it might feel like it to the person involved.

There are very few cases of child molestation where the perpetrator isn't a victim of past abuse or other traumatic incidences of powerlessness themselves. The involvement of trauma makes it very likely that it's a symptom of mental illness first and foremost.

[The Slim Reaper]

Originally Posted by Toy Soldier

I think it's extremely rare for an element of it being the power dynamic (rather, the powerlessness) of the child so no, it's not like adult attraction, though it might feel like it to the person involved.

There are very few cases of child molestation where the perpetrator isn't a victim of past abuse or other traumatic incidences of powerlessness themselves. The involvement of trauma makes it very likely that it's a symptom of mental illness first and foremost.

Have you got some data for this? The only stuff I've read said this is a misconception, and even the data can't be relied that heavily upon, because, for example, it might be in a paedophiles interests to say they were abused as a child if it could get them on to a rehabilitation program in prison.

[thesheriff443]

Just going to say, respect each other’s opinions in this thread.

This is a volatile subject, don’t want this turning into a witch hunt.

[Rob!]

I feel like reports to Facebook must be automated rather than looked at by an actual person. Surely something in the photo doesn’t tick any boxes for removal in the (clearly crap) system? I can’t believe a paid human looked at that and thought “nah, you know what, that’s cool.”

[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by Rob!

I feel like reports to Facebook must be automated rather than looked at by an actual person. Surely something in the photo doesn’t tick any boxes for removal in the (clearly crap) system? I can’t believe a paid human looked at that and thought “nah, you know what, that’s cool.”

Yeah, you would hope that was the case anyway

[user104658]

Originally Posted by Rob!

I feel like reports to Facebook must be automated rather than looked at by an actual person. Surely something in the photo doesn’t tick any boxes for removal in the (clearly crap) system? I can’t believe a paid human looked at that and thought “nah, you know what, that’s cool.”

The "first line" for reports will definitely be an AI algorithm... It had to be, they'd need to employ literally millions of moderators otherwise. There really should be a clearer way to escalate the complaint though.

[Oliver_W]

Something that irks me is when people seem to differentiate between ephebiphillia and "proper" paedophillia. A child is a child, even if they are a teenager...