[arista]

Originally Posted by ThomasC

Yes, 16, you said 14-16 year old having sex.

14 and 15 is illegal.

OK make it 16 year olds
performing Consensual Sex
for School Education.

[Alf]

Wasn't it Amber Rudd's daughter who tweeted it out and deleted it?

[Ammi]

Originally Posted by Alf

Wasn't it Amber Rudd's daughter who tweeted it out and deleted it?

…yeah, so far as the media are reporting, it was Flora Gill…Amber Rudd’s daughter…

[arista]

Originally Posted by Alf

Wasn't it Amber Rudd's daughter who tweeted it out and deleted it?

Yes it was.

[arista]

No choking in Education Videos
they could go wrong.

[user104658]

I don't know what to say other than that the scale of the problem is much, much bigger than you realise and that teenage girls being peer pressured into violent or painful sex acts is happening, daily, to thousands of girls, up and down the country, largely thanks to violent pornography. This isn't a theory it's a fact. And no it's not "both men and women" that's just MRA crap; there may be a SMALL proportion of males affected and there may be a SMALL proportion of girls who actually genuinely enjoy these acts but that's not really the point.

It's normalization of male-on-female sexual violence with questionable levels of consent, for the benefit of males. Full stop. And people are full - FULL - of excuses for it.

[ThomasC]

Originally Posted by Toy Soldier

I don't know what to say other than that the scale of the problem is much, much bigger than you realise and that teenage girls being peer pressured into violent or painful sex acts is happening, daily, to thousands of girls, up and down the country, largely thanks to violent pornography. This isn't a theory it's a fact. And no it's not "both men and women" that's just MRA crap; there may be a SMALL proportion of males affected and there may be a SMALL proportion of girls who actually genuinely enjoy these acts but that's not really the point.

It's normalization of male-on-female sexual violence with questionable levels of consent, for the benefit of males. Full stop. And people are full - FULL - of excuses for it.

Has this not just been happening for a while though?

When you described the acts of violence, they would come under fetishes to me.

sex which is not consensual would be violent, regardless in my eyes, and non-consensual sex has always been a problem. Maybe now more so.

Porn is not going to help.

[GoldHeart]

Originally Posted by Toy Soldier

I don't know what to say other than that the scale of the problem is much, much bigger than you realise and that teenage girls being peer pressured into violent or painful sex acts is happening, daily, to thousands of girls, up and down the country, largely thanks to violent pornography. This isn't a theory it's a fact. And no it's not "both men and women" that's just MRA crap; there may be a SMALL proportion of males affected and there may be a SMALL proportion of girls who actually genuinely enjoy these acts but that's not really the point.

It's normalization of male-on-female sexual violence with questionable levels of consent, for the benefit of males. Full stop. And people are full - FULL - of excuses for it.

well it doesn't help that trash like 50 shades of grey and 365 days gets normalised and hyped up as "fun". When both movies display arrogant toxic abusive relationships, 365 days is even worse than 50 shades. There's no sexual liberation , it's basically glorified possession and ownership of women .

Both those men are creepy and unstable, but because neither of them look like jabba the hutt it's dressed up as something 'adventurous ' , when in reality nobody should touch either of these men and run far far away.

[user104658]

Originally Posted by GoldHeart

well it doesn't help that trash like 50 shades of grey and 365 days gets normalised and hyped up as "fun". When both movies display arrogant toxic abusive relationships, 365 days is even worse than 50 shades. There's no sexual liberation , it's basically glorified possession and ownership of women .

Both those men are creepy and unstable, but because neither of them look like jabba the hutt it's dressed up as something 'adventurous ' , when in reality nobody should touch either of these men and run far far away.

Oh god, 50 shades had many issues… 365 days was a whole other level! . He flat out kidnapped and assaulted her and the plot was that… she liked it. Like you said imagine it was a 50 year old chubby bald guy and instantly it’s a horror movie.

We’re watching sex/life at the moment which is framed as something different but honestly both of the blokes in that are awful, too!

But to be fair it’s quite enjoyable because it’s just… a bit silly and far fetched. And all you come away thinking is “I just feel bad for those poor kids”

[Tom4784]

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[user104658]

Originally Posted by Dezzy

The biggest thing that shocked me about 365 days was that a woman wrote it. I just couldn't imagine many women thinking that sexual assault was erotic. Gross film, gross story. Gross everything.

My wife was disappointed that a woman wrote sex/life as well. Mostly at least it’s a more positive portrayal of the actual SEX in terms of what women physically enjoy, but good god, the characters! They’re all just awful. The ex the main character is pining over - awful, manipulative, abusive, even in the flashback scenes of “the good times”! The supposedly nice guy husband - awful! Borderline rapes her at least twice in his quest to prove that he’s “an alpha”. The woman herself in full mid-life crisis mode (she’s feeling unfulfilled in life, and her solution to this appears to be that she just needs some good dick) - terrible!

It’s basically a tale of gaslighting, abuse, and some very borderline consent stuff, but it’s not framed as that at all .

Unfortunately it’s just the right level of trash that we binged the whole damn show .

[Mystic Mock]

Originally Posted by Toy Soldier

I don't know what to say other than that the scale of the problem is much, much bigger than you realise and that teenage girls being peer pressured into violent or painful sex acts is happening, daily, to thousands of girls, up and down the country, largely thanks to violent pornography. This isn't a theory it's a fact. And no it's not "both men and women" that's just MRA crap; there may be a SMALL proportion of males affected and there may be a SMALL proportion of girls who actually genuinely enjoy these acts but that's not really the point.

It's normalization of male-on-female sexual violence with questionable levels of consent, for the benefit of males. Full stop. And people are full - FULL - of excuses for it.

Personally if someone is violent towards their GF during sex, then they've probably got that side to them anyway, Porn is being blamed for what's most likely a psycho Boyfriend that's using violent Porn as a method to act out his violent tendencies. Just like some psychos do with Video Games.

[user104658]

Originally Posted by Mystic Mock

Personally if someone is violent towards their GF during sex, then they've probably got that side to them anyway, Porn is being blamed for what's most likely a psycho Boyfriend that's using violent Porn as a method to act out his violent tendencies. Just like some psychos do with Video Games.

Again though Mock this isn't guessing and theories - a lot of research has been done into this and it's been a common theme over the last couple of decades. We're not just talking about obvious violence, there are smaller things to consider. To give an example - "pushing the head down" (forcing the back of the woman's head so they gag on the penis) is seen as being really normal in porn, and there are countless examples of young women complaining that someone has done this to them, and then when the guy is asked why he did it he's genuinely baffled because he's inexperienced, all he really knows of sex is from porn, and he thought that was a totally normal part of oral sex. Hair pulling is another common example. Or switching to anal without PROPER (informed, genuine, unpressured) consent during sex. Things that most people don't think are a huge problem because porn has made them seem "standard stuff".

[Mystic Mock]

Originally Posted by Toy Soldier

Again though Mock this isn't guessing and theories - a lot of research has been done into this and it's been a common theme over the last couple of decades. We're not just talking about obvious violence, there are smaller things to consider. To give an example - "pushing the head down" (forcing the back of the woman's head so they gag on the penis) is seen as being really normal in porn, and there are countless examples of young women complaining that someone has done this to them, and then when the guy is asked why he did it he's genuinely baffled because he's inexperienced, all he really knows of sex is from porn, and he thought that was a totally normal part of oral sex. Hair pulling is another common example. Or switching to anal without PROPER (informed, genuine, unpressured) consent during sex. Things that most people don't think are a huge problem because porn has made them seem "standard stuff".

Okay I never thought that I'd ever say this but what's wrong with today's kids?

When I was in my teens I knew that forcing a girl to gag on my Penis was a big no no.

Personally though I thought that violent Porn was illegal to watch in the UK anyway? How are these kids watching it?

[user104658]

Originally Posted by Mystic Mock

Okay I never thought that I'd ever say this but what's wrong with today's kids?

When I was in my teens I knew that forcing a girl to gag on my Penis was a big no no.

Personally though I thought that violent Porn was illegal to watch in the UK anyway? How are these kids watching it?

It’s like anything obviously, it doesn’t affect everyone and it doesn’t impact everyone the same way, obviously plenty of teenagers - even if they’ve seen all sorts of porn - don’t act out the most extreme stuff. Although I think “little bits” of it do still come through in terms of expectations and… umm… techniques.

Anyway in terms of what’s changed with kids these days the answer is basically access. Smartphones and mobile data.

In terms of legality, it is illegal if there’s any suspicion that it’s “real” violence and there was a change a few years back to stop “realistic rape porn” even when it’s acting but there’s still plenty of “consensual aggression” that comes pretty close to the line, and like I said before it’s often so drenched in exploitation and coercion that the “consent line” is really blurred.

[Beso]

Originally Posted by Mystic Mock

Personally if someone is violent towards their GF during sex, then they've probably got that side to them anyway, Porn is being blamed for what's most likely a psycho Boyfriend that's using violent Porn as a method to act out his violent tendencies. Just like some psychos do with Video Games.

No...its what kids watch at 12 or younger on a home pc or laptop when lazy parents cant be arsed to entertain them that make them that way

[Mystic Mock]

Originally Posted by parmnion

No...its what kids watch at 12 or younger on a home pc or laptop when lazy parents cant be arsed to entertain them that make them that way

I would agree more with this.

Parenting and School environment will always shape a person more than entertainment ever will, if one of those two or both of those two things are bad in your life then your chances of being a rotten person will increase.

I always look back to the bullies in my School years, they all had terrible parents, and Teachers being uber soft towards them when they were behaving appallingly.

[arista]

Yes they need to call it
Sex Education for 16 year olds

[ThomasC]

Originally Posted by arista

Yes they need to call it
Sex Education for 16 year olds

This already happens to some degree and `16 is too old for most.

It needs to start in secondary school.

Children are having sex a lot younger.

[ThomasC]

I personally can't stand these sub/dom labels myself.

I just like sex.

[arista]

Originally Posted by ThomasC

I personally can't stand these sub/dom labels myself.

I just like sex.

Thats very normal

[Beso]

Hello children, it's me, uncle Parmy. And guess what children! its uncle parmy in a dress time.

And today in porn education, I will be teaching you how to fist safely.?


Jennifer'

[thesheriff443]

Kids are sending nude pics of themselves and having under age sex
That’s something that’ needs to be addressed before we even get to sex education surely

[Marsh.]

Originally Posted by thesheriff443

Kids are sending nude pics of themselves and having under age sex
That’s something that’ needs to be addressed before we even get to sex education surely

That's part and parcel of sex education surely.

[thesheriff443]

Originally Posted by Marsh.

That's part and parcel of sex education surely.

Yes but Kids as young as 8 are sending pics