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Some people will for sure, but let’s not pretend that some people don’t wait with baited breath for stories like this, just so they can use it as another stick to beat the trans community with
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Well I can only speak for myself here and as a woman and as a mother of a daughter my only interest in this issue is protecting women and girls rights and keeping women and girls safe, not beating any community with a stick.
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I think that's probably true, and then those with genuine concerns are lumped in with those individuals and all are branded as one and the same group without discussion or consideration. But that's just a feature of social media in general, I suppose. Still, it's a fundamentally vicious circle.
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Flag shagger.
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Similarly, women have been subjugated for centuries... and some men still seem to think that they have rights over them. This kind of act impacts women and genuine trans people and I think most people can see that. Of course there is that section of society who hate everyone who's different and latch on to any story that fits their agenda.
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As usual. It’s tiring honestly. Don’t these miserable white women have anything else to complain about
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Which miserable white women? The ones who were victims (including an underage girl) of indecent exposure? Or the miserable woman who exposed herself repeatedly if the charges are correct?
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I'll tell you what's tiring. Having to listen to little mini-rants from someone who I'm convinced simply downloaded their entire personality in PDF format. Last edited by user104658; 03-09-2021 at 07:41 PM. |
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The voice of reason
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This Witch doesn't burn
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We will keep you tired don’t worry, small issue of hard fought women’s rights at stake..If that’s being miserable I will take it over your narrow mind any day
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Piss orf.
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This Witch doesn't burn
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What Elliott seems to fails to comprehend is that women’s rights protect all women however they got there ..so we should all be on the same page against predators and people who abuse the system, we don’t live in Utopia!
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Piss orf.
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Dirty beast.
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Males simply don't belong in woman-only spaces, especially ones where they're exposed and/or vulnerable. Not "even" males who identify as transwomen.
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I recall seeing the video....good I am glad she has been charged. That just wasn't acceptable.
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I do hope the victims feel better and will get justice for what happened. Whether it's from a trans person or not, a sexual offense is a terrible thing to experience. So I hope they will be alright.
It's unfortunately a case that makes the trans community look bad and is wrongly assimilated to sex offenders like that person. The trans people I work with are horrified every time a news like that is coming out. They're scared enough for their rights for those kind of events to create even more fear and hatred. And the Self ID concept is also very debated within the trans community because a lot of them do want at least a form of medical follow-up to be able to legally change the gender on official documents. There is a whole range of measures that can be taken to do that, from Self ID to requiring proof of gender reassignment surgery, with different steps in between. So it's not just one view vs another view, it's more so a complex topic that needs to be adressed by all parties in good spirits.
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Maybe they should start being trans-individuals instead of belonging to a trans-community with people they don't even know, who could be criminals, like in this case. Just a suggestion. Last edited by Alf; 03-09-2021 at 01:00 PM. |
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Tbh it would be great to have a conversation in good spirits, the problem is it seems we can’t, Just taking this case in isolation, there should have been an immediate red flag for the staff that this person exposed themselves, my feeling is pre op trans women would be respectful of being in a shared female space,we, men and women have all managed to change in a communal space or at the beach without exposing ourselves so to my mind this was a deliberate act which was then dealt with appallingly by the staff probably due to some of the reasons TS outlined above, so until we can move on from name calling or worse we are where we are
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Social media is not the best media to have any kind of serious conversation to begin with, let alone a discussion about rights in general. At the shelter for LGBT+ people I partially work for, we try to organize debates based on those issues and I remember we hosted a discussion between cis women and trans women one day. Both groups had strong opinions but in the end it turned out to be super respectful and everyone got to talk. No name calling and if I remember correctly the outcome was that more gender neutral places should exist. And both groups now walk together at Pride and at walks for womens rights etc It's just an example and one of many possible outcomes but I feel like open face to face discussions do more good than bad.
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