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Originally Posted by Black Dagger

Get that misogynist Marcello in the bin NOW!

It's true tbf.

Dean is calling Marcello out for "toxic masculinity" when he likes to cook, an activity that machismo personality types don't gravitate towards.

Dean was bang out of order with Marcello and Sarah, he went really personal and hopefully he'll get to find out what the public think of his behaviour in the upcoming eviction.

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He is foul!

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it just shows ignorance more than anything else

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I mean, if Marcello does see cooking to be a feminine interest (rightly or wrongly) and is yet happy to do it anyhow and be open about his love of it surely that's a good thing and shows that he is comfortable with that caring nurturing side of himself?

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Originally Posted by vesavius

I mean, if Marcello does see cooking to be a feminine interest (rightly or wrongly) and is yet happy to do it anyhow and be open about his love of it surely that's a good thing and shows that he is comfortable with that caring nurturing side of himself?

Definitely. He's Italian and all Italians learn how to cook, including men.
My two older nephews both can cook.
Not the little one obviously.

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Originally Posted by vesavius

I mean, if Marcello does see cooking to be a feminine interest (rightly or wrongly) and is yet happy to do it anyhow and be open about his love of it surely that's a good thing and shows that he is comfortable with that caring nurturing side of himself?

Notice how it's getting twisted into that , absolutely ridiculous isn't it.

Marcello handled himself brilliantly with the weasel, I think Dean expected Marcello to get angry ,which would have just played straight into his narrative. I'm so glad he stayed calm & relaxed and put the little twat in his place, in the most chilled way.

In fact all 3 of them - Sarah, Khaled & Marcello were
amazing in last night's show.

Sarah didn't cry ,and was incredibly intelligent & open with him. She's so down to earth.

Khaled has more maturity in his little finger,than Nathan has all over . Khaled is such a decent guy . He continues to prove he has more growth than a few of them in there
, despite him being young.

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Marcello isn't perfect, but he's showing more maturity than weasel Dean.

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Originally Posted by bots

it just shows ignorance more than anything else

He is talking about how cooking is perceived in general by people.

Being into cooking is not perceived as a masculine profession to people that are machismo/display toxic masculinity.

Because I'm willing to bet that someone like Andrew Tate would have something to say about men that cook for example.

Marcello was right in what he was saying, we don't have to like the truth, but sometimes the truth sucks.

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Originally Posted by Mystic Mock

He is talking about how cooking is perceived in general by people.

Being into cooking is not perceived as a masculine profession to people that are machismo/display toxic masculinity.

Because I'm willing to bet that someone like Andrew Tate would have something to say about men that cook for example.

Marcello was right in what he was saying, we don't have to like the truth, but sometimes the truth sucks.

cooking in general is perceived as being done by anyone. People that think its only women in the kitchen in the average home have never lived with a partner

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Originally Posted by bots

cooking in general is perceived as being done by anyone. People that think its only women in the kitchen in the average home have never lived with a partner

Cooking at home in general is perceived as a feminine trait.

It's just in 2024, it's not probably stated as openly as what Marcello did in the episode.

But we'll see if Andrew Tate starts bragging about making his own Pizza.

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Originally Posted by Mystic Mock

Cooking at home in general is perceived as a feminine trait.

It's just in 2024, it's not probably stated as openly as what Marcello did in the episode.

But we'll see if Andrew Tate starts bragging about making his own Pizza.

By people who view cooking as a woman only job, maybe, but normal people don’t care who does the cooking in the home, only ‘alpha male’ incels and pick me’s care

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Originally Posted by bots

cooking in general is perceived as being done by anyone. People that think its only women in the kitchen in the average home have never lived with a partner

Exactly. In our house it's whoever gets home first gets the dinner on, team work makes the dream work

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Originally Posted by Niamh.

Exactly. In our house it's whoever gets home first gets the dinner on, team work makes the dream work

Thankfully it seems like you've got a Husband that isn't falling into what Dean is accusing Marcello of.

Because I honestly don't believe that Toxic masculine men would even want to learn how to cook.

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He was a chef. Of course he likes cooking. Dean saying he doesn't like masculine men is ridiculous. When he has praised Marcello many times.

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Originally Posted by Black Dagger

Get that misogynist Marcello in the bin NOW!

While the culinary industry is male dominated, with over 80% of fine dining chefs are male, cooking at a home for those you live with it still seen as mainly a female task by many. I know in my friendship circle, the 'job' of feeding the family largely falls on the woman in the relationship.

Marcello was obviously referring to this attitude. Marcello was a chef, he will know how that cooking isn't a female dominated industry, so I don't think his point reflected his views specifically.

I really don't think he meant anything else by it.

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Originally Posted by BBXX

While the culinary industry is male dominated, with over 80% of fine dining chefs are male, cooking at a home for those you live with it still seen as mainly a female task by many. I know in my friendship circle, the 'job' of feeding the family largely falls on the woman in the relationship.

Marcello was obviously referring to this attitude. Marcello was a chef, he will know how that cooking isn't a female dominated industry, so I don't think his point reflected his views specifically.

I really don't think he meant anything else by it.

Exactly this.

You've described it much better than I have.

But I honestly don't get how anyone has misinterpreted what Marcello meant, he made it pretty clear.

I get that some people don't like him (which is fair enough) but there's no need to twist what he meant, because he made Dean look like a prick in the argument.