[Jordan.]

Body language doesn't lie. He already decided to "end" things with her once and then started it again as soon as he got bored.

[Zizu]

Originally Posted by jones89

True. But in my head i’d still know that in reality it was 2 weeks and no L word would even be entering my brain

We know she is dipsy and in her own little Barbie world … she’s 21 and by all accounts she’s just recently out of a very strained/strange relationship with a guy she’s been with for 6 years .. he seems a pretty undesirable character


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[Ray.]

Originally Posted by Zizu

We know she is dipsy and in her own little Barbie world … she’s 21 and by all accounts she’s just recently out of a very strained/strange relationship with a guy she’s been with for 6 years .. he seems a pretty undesirable character


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Well she seems to have found him pretty desirable if she'd been with him six years.

[Vanessa]

If she tells him that she'll scare him off

[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by bots

i think we are seeing the product of child abuse, that's why i am much more inclined to be sympathetic than most

ah yeah I had forgotten about her story about being adopted etc

[Zizu]

Originally Posted by bots

i think we are seeing the product of child abuse, that's why i am much more inclined to be sympathetic than most

Same .. seems we are in the minority sadly


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[Zizu]

Originally Posted by Ray.

Well she seems to have found him pretty desirable if she'd been with him six years.

Guess you haven’t heard of abused / battered wives staying with the husband for decades !?


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[Beso]

Just out of a 6 year relationship and already emotionally blackmailing the next one by saying she loves him...


Right, just get her out, she's awful to watch. Gives a women a bad name.

[Liam-]

She makes me very uncomfortable to watch I can’t lie

[Ammi]

…I wouldn’t personally link Elsa to ‘child abuse’, that’s something we couldn’t know but for me, I’ve known several young people who have experienced many levels of an abusive home life and it’s not personally what I would feel for Elsa…obviously all things are possible and abandonment/rejection is form of abuse…which we know to be the case from her story that she consciously recalls the neglect that she experienced with her birth parent(s)…the clinginess and reassurances and strong early emotional attachment, feel very much linked to abandonment type issues and that it feels as though she needs a relationship to feel her own validation…that she can’t identify herself/who she is outside of that thing of being a girlfriend who is adored…

[Ammi]

Originally Posted by Liam-

She makes me very uncomfortable to watch I can’t lie

…she does very much make uncomfortable viewing, Liam…it’s difficult to watch her play out her insecurities in such a public way…and I don’t feel that a boyfriend/romantic attachment is a place she needs to be right now …I’d love to see her get to know and love Elsa…I love to see her in a male/female friendship actually, like with Cameron…?…I get the vibe that she maybe hasn’t had so much male friendship in her life that is just platonic…and that’s quite sweet to see…

[Ammi]

…Marcus only slept with two females when he was on a four day break in Ibiza or wherever…oh Elsa, please noooooooooo…..

[Zizu]

Originally Posted by Beso

Just out of a 6 year relationship and already emotionally blackmailing the next one by saying she loves him...


Right, just get her out, she's awful to watch. Gives a women a bad name.

She didn’t tell him she told two other housemates ..


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[Zizu]

Originally Posted by Ammi

…she does very much make uncomfortable viewing, Liam…it’s difficult to watch her play out her insecurities in such a public way…and I don’t feel that a boyfriend/romantic attachment is a place she needs to be right now …I’d love to see her get to know and love Elsa…I love to see her in a male/female friendship actually, like with Cameron…?…I get the vibe that she maybe hasn’t had so much male friendship in her life that is just platonic…and that’s quite sweet to see…

Agreed .. Sam maybe if Nancy wasn’t there


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[Zizu]

Originally Posted by Ammi

…I wouldn’t personally link Elsa to ‘child abuse’, that’s something we couldn’t know but for me, I’ve known several young people who have experienced many levels of an abusive home life and it’s not personally what I would feel for Elsa…obviously all things are possible and abandonment/rejection is form of abuse…which we know to be the case from her story that she consciously recalls the neglect that she experienced with her birth parent(s)…the clinginess and reassurances and strong early emotional attachment, feel very much linked to abandonment type issues and that it feels as though she needs a relationship to feel her own validation…that she can’t identify herself/who she is outside of that thing of being a girlfriend who is adored…

I would agree with everything you say 100%

Maybe the person suggesting possible child abuse was linking it possibly to growing up in care and all the horror stories surrounding it


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[Zizu]

Originally Posted by Liam-

She makes me very uncomfortable to watch I can’t lie

I feel the same way so that’s why all the hateful comments made towards her in here really annoy me


She’s harmed no one yet you’d think she had done something dreadful .


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[Swan]

Originally Posted by Ammi

…Marcus only slept with two females when he was on a four day break in Ibiza or wherever…oh Elsa, please noooooooooo…..

This is how i know im getting old, that's something i may have asked someone when i was 20, but now when meeting a potential partner i wouldn't even dream of asking something like that, it wouldn't even enter my mind. Instead i'd be asking questions like "oh i bet the weather was nice"?? "were the drinks cheap, what did you eat, what was your hotel like"??

[Ammi]

Originally Posted by Swan

This is how i know im getting old, that's something i may have asked someone when i was 20, but now when meeting a potential partner i wouldn't even dream of asking something like that, it wouldn't even enter my mind. Instead i'd be asking questions like "oh i bet the weather was nice"?? "were the drinks cheap, what did you eat, what was your hotel like"??

…it’s not so much even that it’s what he said that he did/or did…it’s more for me, that Elsa attaches emotionally so easily and Marcus attaches physically very easily in a way that doesn’t necessarily involve any emotional attachment…?…so it it’s doesn’t feel like something that could be a good coupling as her ‘farmhouse/horse husband’……

…but I don’t think that it’s about you getting old..?…so much as about Elsa in her own neediness of behaviour and that needing to feel that what Marcus feels for her is ‘special and emotional and romantic’, you know…?…that he’s deeping for her as they say…so to validate her importance to him, comparisons to other aspects of his relationships etc are important for her…in my own opinion, really…

[Ammi]

…I mean, obviously you are very, very old though … @Swan …

[vesavius]

Originally Posted by Niamh.

Elsa on Marcus after the eviction. Bit soon Elsa, if she says that to him he may run a mile. She's a bit intense I think after less than 2 weeks in the house.

She's insane.

Complete bunny boiler.

[Swan]

Originally Posted by Ammi

…it’s not so much even that it’s what he said that he did/or did…it’s more for me, that Elsa attaches emotionally so easily and Marcus attaches physically very easily in a way that doesn’t necessarily involve any emotional attachment…?…so it it’s doesn’t feel like something that could be a good coupling as her ‘farmhouse/horse husband’……

…but I don’t think that it’s about you getting old..?…so much as about Elsa in her own neediness of behaviour and that needing to feel that what Marcus feels for her is ‘special and emotional and romantic’, you know…?…that he’s deeping for her as they say…so to validate her importance to him, comparisons to other aspects of his relationships etc are important for her…in my own opinion, really…

Yeah i know what you're saying. Her neediness is very apparent. I think she's probably the type to latch on to any guy she finds attractive and who show her a bit of attention.

I still can't really make my mind up with her. Her child like voice is pretty annoying, but she's quite inoffensive i suppose. She certainly does live with her head in clouds though.

Her "relationship" with Marcus will obviously go nowhere outside of the house though.

Originally Posted by Ammi

…I mean, obviously you are very, very old though … @Swan …

[Gusto Brunt]

Originally Posted by Crimson Dynamo

I think its just that she has spent 2 weeks with a bloke she likes 24/7 and she has an infatuation

Some people fall in love instantly. It's called love at first sight. They did a TV show about it.

It can happen, so maybe it is for real.

[rusticgal]

Originally Posted by Zizu

I didn’t hear him say that at all !

Any links ??

He did say something like ..

“ I think I’ll make a great boyfriend to someone and it’s looking like it’s a gonna be Elsa “


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He said it when he was outside but can’t remember who with…

[GoldHeart]

I'm so behind with the episodes, but Elsa is ridiculous if she's confessing her " love" already .

She was already suffocating Marcus, like she'd been with him for 10 years , rather than 10 mins .

[thesheriff443]

That silly cow is a great reason not to watch the series
At least with tik tok you flick straight past the sad idiots