[Zippy]

Originally Posted by ElProximo

Not anywhere close to 10% of the population chooses homosexuality.

Correct.

Homosexuality chooses them.

[Mystic Mock]

[QUOTE=ElProximo;3792507]

Originally Posted by jedward fever

anyway theres a difference between gays and shoe lovers.



Say's who?
Which gay?
Why does 'being in love' even have anything to do with homosexuality anyways?




Who are you do judge? They are in love with a show and so that is their choice and how they were born.
Who are you to condemn them just because YOU think it must be another human.



Being gay is a choice but I don't know anyone is 'sent to hell' for any such thing.
It may be there is no such thing as homosexuality in heaven and some people decide they would rather stay outside the gates??

i didnt say they had to be in love with a human,i was saying a living thing otherwise i think they are insane.

[ElProximo]

Originally Posted by Zippy

Correct.

Homosexuality chooses them.

'waving cutesy' aside - what are you saying then? That it is a disease in the womb?
Is it some chemicals that find the developing fetus and 'infect' it?
You are closer to the idea there are people who would otherwise be hetero or 'normal' and would be originally intended to be 'straight',
but,
then something affects them and changes it?

The best studies we have show something like 1 to 3% have, at some time, had some 'homosexual experience',
but,
even that needs to be looked at when this can include people who (for example) had a single experience in university they describe as 'homosexual'.

As for those 'exclusively homosexual' and 'ongoing' this isn't easy to narrow down but it may be less than 1%
A lot of companies want to find out more and more about this demographic and sell them things,
but,
they can't find much more than about 1 or 2%.

You could find more depending on what region, city, area and less in another region city or area.
One city I lived in and I could safely and easily say about 1 in every 25 people were 'actively exclusively homosexual'.
In my hometown I would be shocked if you could find 1 in every 300.

Again, don't assume I am 'opposed to gays'. I notice a few people are doing that. Don't.
Nothing I'm telling you actually tells you that so don't assume.

[BBfan46]

Originally Posted by ElProximo

Again, don't assume I am 'opposed to gays'. I notice a few people are doing that. Don't.
Nothing I'm telling you actually tells you that so don't assume.

Except when you called gay people ******* like six times?

[Mystic Mock]

Originally Posted by BBfan46

Except when you called gay people ******* like six times?

i normally like them,but they stick up for shoe lovers so what can i say.

[30stone]

Originally Posted by BBfan46

Why do you think homosexuality is un-natural? People are born gay.

The way i think he meant it was that the anus is meant to be an exit hole, naturally.

[Mystic Mock]

Originally Posted by 30stone

The way i think he meant it was that the anus is meant to be an exit hole, naturally.

he did call them *******, and he then goes to stick up for shoe lovers.

i think el proximo is keeping something secret about shoe obcessions.

[BBfan46]

Originally Posted by 30stone

The way i think he meant it was that the anus is meant to be an exit hole, naturally.

Actually male's g spot is in the arse

[Shasown]

Originally Posted by arista

Ahhh Thanks poppet, but I have read it.

Perhaps that comment was too deep for you. Maybe i should have said "God exists ONLY in the hearts and minds of Man"

Originally Posted by 30stone

The way i think he meant it was that the anus is meant to be an exit hole, naturally.

Interesting to note the female anus contains more sensory pleasure nerves than the vagina.

Originally Posted by BBfan46

Actually male's g spot is in the arse

Do you mean the prostate? If you do then you should know its not in the butt but can be accessed that way, it can also be stimulated through the perineum

[ElProximo]

Originally Posted by BBfan46

Except when you called gay people ******* like six times?

No.
*Insult Removed*
What I did was ask you if YOU were (by implication) arguing that gays have either a physical deformity or mental retardation of some kind.
You.
Not me.

The male 'g-spot' is called 'the penis'. There is no 'g-spot' in the rectum although if you want to go inside the body then push through the rectum wall into the prostate you can force seminal fluid out of the penis.

[Zippy]

Originally Posted by 30stone

The way i think he meant it was that the anus is meant to be an exit hole, naturally.

Er, I dont think the gays have a monopoly on anal sex.

I'd post links but....

[Mystic Mock]

Originally Posted by ElProximo

No.
*Insult Removed*
What I did was ask you if YOU were (by implication) arguing that gays have either a physical deformity or mental retardation of some kind.
You.
Not me.

The male 'g-spot' is called 'the penis'. There is no 'g-spot' in the rectum although if you want to go inside the body then push through the rectum wall into the prostate you can force seminal fluid out of the penis.

some of your post got removed?

[ElProximo]

Originally Posted by jedward fever

some of your post got removed?

Someone has an 'agenda' and feels they can make it happen by censoring speech.

[iRyan]

Originally Posted by BBfan46

It's statistical fact in the Western World that 1 in 10 people would identify as LGBT. At no point did I ever state being gay was a retardation that was your prejudice being inclined to believe I did so would contradict my argument and therefore the purpose of the thread.

a Gay man's penis and a Straight man's penis have the same purpose to reproduce, a gay man doesn't feel the need to use this function as he is attracted to the same sex, it doesn't mean it's a retardation, the appendix has no use yet we still have them, sperm has little use to a gay man but he still produces it, therefore that argument cannot be contained.

The Third Gender as you refer to is illogical, there are two genders, male and female, a gender is determined by anatomy not by sexual attraction, the fact you claim to say homosexuality is a phase is ridiculous why would people choose to go through emotional torment?

People have been gay since Biblical times and the ancient Greeks before that, it's well known and documented... Wikipedia it bitch.

*claps for you*

ElProximo is quite possibly the most ignorant person i've seen on this forum with his pathetic 'arguement'.

[KG.]

I can't take ElProximo's posts seriously without wiggling my fingers in the air, there are too many 'apostrophes' and "speech marks."

Actually, I lied, I just can't take them seriously at all.

[iRyan]

Originally Posted by 30stone

The way i think he meant it was that the anus is meant to be an exit hole, naturally.

The anus still has pleasure sensors in it though. It's not just "meant" for ****ting.

Straight people have anal sex as well. It doesn't make it unnatural.

[ElProximo]

Originally Posted by BBfan46

It's statistical fact in the Western World that 1 in 10 people would identify as LGBT.

Wrong.
The best studies (and these are the best scientific studies by PHDs) find somewhere between 1 to 3% 'identifying'.
As I explained already - this can even include people who 'felt some homosexual feelings' 20 years ago and chose to report having had some 'homosexual experience'.

The other thing you can do is just open your eyes and realize that 10% of the people are not homosexuals.

At no point did I ever state being gay was a retardation that was your prejudice being inclined to believe I did so would contradict my argument and therefore the purpose of the thread.

No, you didn't but I asked if that was the idea when someone believes (based on nothing) that babies are born homosexual.
I explain it further:
Is the penis a mistake or is the brain having a problem?
That is where YOU GO when you decide to argue for this 'born gay' angle.

a Gay man's penis and a Straight man's penis have the same purpose to reproduce, a gay man doesn't feel the need to use this function as he is attracted to the same sex,

I strongly agree.

it doesn't mean it's a retardation, the appendix has no use yet we still have them,

The Appendix has a purpose.

sperm has little use to a gay man but he still produces it, therefore that argument cannot be contained.

Here it won't matter if you believe in some unguided evolution or a creator but you have a problem:
Why would the physiology (which we never find) but suppose the brain of the gay baby does has altered.
So the sperm production is like some kind of bad joke?
nature's cruel joke?
Why don't they produce disinfectants in the rectum?
I'm asking YOU if YOU think nature made a mistake.
I don't.

The Third Gender as you refer to is illogical, there are two genders, male and female, a gender is determined by anatomy not by sexual attraction, the fact you claim to say homosexuality is a phase is ridiculous why would people choose to go through emotional torment?

That is why I put the bunny ears around 'gender', Spock. Nobody was confused.
You didn't need to clear up this was 'illogical' ffs lol

But that is the idea with the 'born gay' people. That there is something like a different 'gender'.
There is male, female and another kind of sex born called a 'gay' and another 'lesbian'.
This is what the 'born gay' people are doing. Not me.

People have been gay since Biblical times and the ancient Greeks before that, it's well known and documented... Wikipedia it bitch.

Why wikipedia that WHEN I TAUGHT YOU THAT IN THE EARLIER POST.
I TOLD YOU.
You got that information from me first.
So why did you 'inform' me of what I just previously taught you?
That was illogical lol

[SoBig]

Is it true that most people that were molested at a young age by a person of the same sex, that they end up being gay when they get older?

If thats the case, then its mental, no?

[headaball]

Lesbians.

[Grimnir]

here is a question for everyone who is straight and follows no religion

if you had to choose to spend a whole day trapped in a room with either a bible basher or a very camp gay

who would you choose?

[InOne]

Originally Posted by Grimnir

here is a question for everyone who is straight and follows no religion

if you had to choose to spend a whole day trapped in a room with either a bible basher or a very camp gay

who would you choose?

Bible Basher. She could be fit

[Omen]

Originally Posted by SoBig

Is it true that most people that were molested at a young age by a person of the same sex, that they end up being gay when they get older?

If thats the case, then its mental, no?

No, that's not true.

[headaball]

Originally Posted by Grimnir

here is a question for everyone who is straight and follows no religion

if you had to choose to spend a whole day trapped in a room with either a bible basher or a very camp gay

who would you choose?

Whoever's got the fattest head - I'd use them as a battering ram.

[ElProximo]

Originally Posted by SoBig

Is it true that most people that were molested at a young age by a person of the same sex, that they end up being gay when they get older?

If thats the case, then its mental, no?

Yes you are right. There has been studies showing a disproportionately high number of gay men were sexually molested by an older gay man when they were themselves children/teens.
There is some interest along the same lines with lesbian women too.
This suggests it can be a psychological issue brought on by events/upbringing trauma etc.

Here is what is even more remarkable and something fairly well known among researchers:
A highly disproportionate number of gay men reported a dysfunctional family upbringing that had a combination of two factors to some extreme:
- An absent father
- a domineering mother.
Researchers point out that 'absent' does not necessarily mean 'missing' or even gone all the time but more importantly 'unloving' cold, emotionally distant.
Researchers point out that by 'dominant mother' they don't mean in a cruel or even 'negative' way but in the sense of being the central figure who is 'dominant', controlling, the initiator and the dominating social figure.
One study had a whopping 60% of gay men reporting this as a significant dysfunctional problem.
This suggests the interest or appeal in being gay can come about from psycho-sociological issues.

But if there was a 'gay gene' that definitely brings up the inevitable question (especially with great advances in mapping genomes, genetic therapy etc) and here it is:
Should we find and isolate the gene even when it is still a fetus and then what?
How many would simply choose to abort the gay baby,
or,
Maybe more the question is the potential option of gene therapy to replace the 'gay gene' while keeping the baby?
How many would do that?
Would you?
Another question might be giving a baby a 'gay gene' as parent may want the freedom to choose.
Maybe the Mum always dreamed to have her own gay boy?
Shouldn't she have the right to choose what she wants for her own body and put the gay gene in the soon-to-be baby boy or girl?

[BBfan46]

Originally Posted by ElProximo

Yes you are right. There has been studies showing a disproportionately high number of gay men were sexually molested by an older gay man when they were themselves children/teens.
There is some interest along the same lines with lesbian women too.
This suggests it can be a psychological issue brought on by events/upbringing trauma etc.

Here is what is even more remarkable and something fairly well known among researchers:
A highly disproportionate number of gay men reported a dysfunctional family upbringing that had a combination of two factors to some extreme:
- An absent father
- a domineering mother.
Researchers point out that 'absent' does not necessarily mean 'missing' or even gone all the time but more importantly 'unloving' cold, emotionally distant.
Researchers point out that by 'dominant mother' they don't mean in a cruel or even 'negative' way but in the sense of being the central figure who is 'dominant', controlling, the initiator and the dominating social figure.
One study had a whopping 60% of gay men reporting this as a significant dysfunctional problem.
This suggests the interest or appeal in being gay can come about from psycho-sociological issues.

But if there was a 'gay gene' that definitely brings up the inevitable question (especially with great advances in mapping genomes, genetic therapy etc) and here it is:
Should we find and isolate the gene even when it is still a fetus and then what?
How many would simply choose to abort the gay baby,
or,
Maybe more the question is the potential option of gene therapy to replace the 'gay gene' while keeping the baby?
How many would do that?
Would you?
Another question might be giving a baby a 'gay gene' as parent may want the freedom to choose.
Maybe the Mum always dreamed to have her own gay boy?
Shouldn't she have the right to choose what she wants for her own body and put the gay gene in the soon-to-be baby boy or girl?

, this is utter bollocks, did you make this up last night, people don't make a conscious decision to be gay, you decide to be gay and let's see if it works for you and if your theory is so full proof like you seem to think where does bisexuality fit in to your bigoted spectrum? Who told you you were Sigmund Freud?