[Black Dagger]

Originally Posted by Niazareth

who even is Dan what's his name?

The Sun journalist. So that says it all.

He's a top grade bellend. If he dislikes Louis, then he's probably a top guy.

[Vanessa]

Originally Posted by Niazareth

who even is Dan what's his name?

From The Sun.

[Vanessa]

Gary is complaining about Nick's song

On Xtra Factor tonight Gary told Louis that Candy was a horrible song choice for Nicholas. Didn't he write that song?

[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by Vanessa

Gary is complaining about Nick's song

On Xtra Factor tonight Gary told Louis that Candy was a horrible song choice for Nicholas. Didn't he write that song?

he probably just meant that it was a poor choice for Nicholas and that he couldn't do it justice

[Vanessa]

Originally Posted by Niazareth

he probably just meant that it was a poor choice for Nicholas and that he couldn't do it justice

I quite liked it actually, but needed more oomph. Nick is not good uptempo.

[alex_front2]

We all love it when "the gays" become mega queeny and get into a bitch fight. My money is on Dan. You go girl.

[alex_front2]

But im sure there is more up tempo stuff in charts now than 5, 10 years ago. Which is why everyone goes crazy for rare ballads from adele and emili sande.

[Vanessa]

Originally Posted by alex_front2

But im sure there is more up tempo stuff in charts now than 5, 10 years ago. Which is why everyone goes crazy for rare ballads from adele and emili sande.

Depends who sings the ballads. Nick sends me right to sleep.

[alex_front2]

Ballads generally work imo now if the singer isn't a typical ballad singer eg Eminem has done of the best (rap) ballads. Wrecking Ball would have been a mega flop if someone obvious like Celine Deon or Sam B sang it, but Miley with her twerking scandal, nudity and carefully contived pseudo controversity stopped it from being s slushy dirge.

In the 1980s the best song writers would lend their songs to big name established divas like cher, celine and tina turner. Now they give their best to younger chateuse like ella eyre, rihanna, miley, iggy azealia etc. Sharon and Gary are deluded if they think sia will want to give her songs to a Sam or Nicholas.

[Marcus.]

he need to be happy he placed at all

[Vanessa]

Originally Posted by ShiningStar

he need to be happy he placed at all

That is so true, Marcus!

[alex_front2]

Nooo. Sam would have sold more she got 1m votes

[Vanessa]

Originally Posted by alex_front2

Nooo. Sam would have sold more she got 1m votes

Most people who vote don't buy the records. Look at Leon Jackson.

From Buzzjacks : Tuesday mid sales of X-Factor winners singles:

<36,600* Leon Jackson 'When You Believe'
45,000 Sam Bailey 'Skyscraper'
68,000 Little Mix 'Cannonball
77,000 Joe McElderry 'The Climb'
88,000 Leona Lewis 'A Moment Like This'
112,000 Matt Cardle 'When We Collide'
149,546 Alexandra Burke 'Hallelujah'
187,000 James Arthur 'Impossible'

[Marcus.]

Originally Posted by Vanessa

Most people who vote don't buy the records. Look at Leon Jackson.

From Buzzjacks : Tuesday mid sales of X-Factor winners singles:

<36,600* Leon Jackson 'When You Believe'
45,000 Sam Bailey 'Skyscraper'
68,000 Little Mix 'Cannonball
77,000 Joe McElderry 'The Climb'
88,000 Leona Lewis 'A Moment Like This'
112,000 Matt Cardle 'When We Collide'
149,546 Alexandra Burke 'Hallelujah'
187,000 James Arthur 'Impossible'

did not like his one
i heard same differnce one

[Me. I Am Salman]

All the winners' singles except for Leona/Shayne/Alexandra suck

[Vanessa]

Originally Posted by Salman!

All the winners' singles except for Leona/Shayne/Alexandra suck

I like James Arthur.

[Me. I Am Salman]

Originally Posted by Vanessa

I like James Arthur.

okay

[Z]

Dunno if it's because I didn't watch the show so I'm not sucked in by the pantomime this year or if I just see things differently to most of the responses in this thread, but I think it's completely fair enough to be annoyed that your mentor was openly supporting your rival in the final and that a supposed impartial judge was still criticising you for absolutely no reason in the final - Gary was criticising him for... not singing a ballad? How is that even a criticism? Why would you say that? Because you're trying to sabotage the guy to ensure he doesn't win. Perfectly fair enough for him and his mum to be annoyed at the behaviour of the judges - you also had Nicole Scherzinger duetting with the eventual winner, Sharon Osbourne's act. All four judges wanted Sam to win, the production team were doing their absolute best to ensure nobody else won. As always, another fix-within-the-rules result.

[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by The baby Zeesus

Dunno if it's because I didn't watch the show so I'm not sucked in by the pantomime this year or if I just see things differently to most of the responses in this thread, but I think it's completely fair enough to be annoyed that your mentor was openly supporting your rival in the final and that a supposed impartial judge was still criticising you for absolutely no reason in the final - Gary was criticising him for... not singing a ballad? How is that even a criticism? Why would you say that? Because you're trying to sabotage the guy to ensure he doesn't win. Perfectly fair enough for him and his mum to be annoyed at the behaviour of the judges - you also had Nicole Scherzinger duetting with the eventual winner, Sharon Osbourne's act. All four judges wanted Sam to win, the production team were doing their absolute best to ensure nobody else won. As always, another fix-within-the-rules result.

I guess when you put it like that you have a point although it isn't good really for him to vocalize it if he's hoping for any kind of a career out of this........the fact I think he's s**t and didn't deserve to be in the final probably is clouding my judgments, I'll admit

[Z]

Also it's well documented that Louis Walsh is a crap mentor in the music industry. If you want to succeed under Louis Walsh then you'd better be Irish, male and do everything to his standards and expectations. The list of people who have been dropped by Louis Walsh for not meeting his standards is ridiculous - he completely abandoned Girls Aloud after Popstars: The Rivals and they had to manage themselves completely in the beginning - they didn't become the smash success that they became because of him - he just took their profits and did nothing for them. He completely soured towards Ronan Keating when he stopped playing ball. The guy's a nasty piece of work.

[Jordan.]

You would because you're rude like Gary

[Apple202]

no one cares

[hannah2013]

I totally agree with everything Nicholas said they were treating that final like there was only one act in it but there wasnt. Nicholas isnt bitter by not winning he is just stating the truth and is very glas he came 2nd.

[Vanessa]

Originally Posted by hannah2013

I totally agree with everything Nicholas said they were treating that final like there was only one act in it but there wasnt. Nicholas isnt bitter by not winning he is just stating the truth and is very glas he came 2nd.

His voice is ok, but i don't like his attitude. Louis has done the same thing to Luke before, but he's not crying about it.

[Niamh.]

Great post Greg and I agree completely. For me personally Luke is probably the only one this year who I'd potentially listen to or buy............obviously depending on what kind of material he releases but just by going on what he did on the X Factor I like his voice and the style of music he's leaning towards