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Old 19-09-2014, 11:51 AM #1
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Good post Z, hope you don't get unnecessary stick for that.
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I cannot STAND this "fear won over hope" ****e I've been reading everywhere. I'm just going to share what I posted on Facebook this morning in this thread.



I voted yes, by the way.
Shame you didn't win - i would have liked you to
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Yeah I don't think it's accurate or fair to equate the No vote with one for 'fear' and make out the Scots are a persecuted country who when it came to it were too scared to anger their Westminster overlords. People simply made a reasonable and informed decision that the relationship with the Union was good enough that it was worth preserving, not worth sacrificing for the minefield of independence which could have sent the country hurtling into a pit of no return.

The Union has been a massive success story since its formation and none of us in any of its countries would have had the same benefits we have today if it had never existed, and all the countries have played a massive part in building it. It's very rare for a country to be offered independence and decline it, I don't know if it's ever happened apart from Quebec who also narrowly rejected independence from Canada. I don't think the majority who voted No were misled or motivated by fear, it's a bit patronising and insulting to say they were.
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Feel sorry for everybody who was so passionate about voting yes, but selfishly I'm happy Scotland hasn't gone independent.

The whole thing is one for the record books though.
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I'm of the opinion that managing a population of 5 million people makes more sense than 65 million people; but as part of that 65 million, we have a seat at the big table at the party with all the top dogs. Know where you're being fed and don't bite that hand.
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When's the TiBB referendum to dethrone Josy?
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What the hell was it all about anyway? The whole thing was crazy.

That stupid-looking Alex Salmond should resign. Who the hell does he think he is? He's wasted a load of money on this mindless referendum.

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Have had to unfollow/remove them as friends for their nastiness towards the No result
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I'm so happy with the result! I didn't want to be ripped from the United Kingdom!

I hate the people calling us traitors and embarrassments. It's ridiculous.

The mentality of some people is a joke.

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Gordon speech was great! He was very passionate.
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Getting a bit rowdy in Glasgow (George Square)
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Rangers against Celtic

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Vid here

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-29287409
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It's mostly just neds looking for an excuse to riot.

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They'll all be drunk tbh
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Silly City rioting. Don't see London doing that
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Disaffected, rebellious...discontented..dissatisfied...antagoni stic...hostile...mutinous...uncompliant...unsubmis sive.

I don't blame them.
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I don't blame them.
It wasnt yes supporters.

Its over now, the police closed Off the roads and sent them all on their way.
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It wasnt yes supporters.

Its over now, the police closed Off the roads and sent them all on their way.
I didn't say it was, but you can't expect people to not be angry and acting antisocially is a way of expressing that they are rebelling against what they see as an oppressive establishment.
I don't think it will be over for a long time.
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The rioting and behaviour is appalling.

Whatever way the vote went it was going to happen regardless.


Hopefully it blows over.
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The rioting and behaviour is appalling.

Whatever way the vote went it was going to happen regardless.


Hopefully it blows over.
Why is it appalling?... what did you expect, that the passion and strength of national pride and expectation was going to be expelled with a shrug of the shoulders?...
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Why is it appalling?... what did you expect, that the passion and strength of national pride and expectation was going to be expelled with a shrug of the shoulders?...
Because people don't need to react in such a way.

When fights start and people are getting hurt it's not right. People can celebrate yes, but do it with dignity.

Both sides are just as bad as each other, not the majority of people but the ones getting reported. It's just giving the whole thing a bad outlook, which is a shame because it really was a great debate and the turnout of votes was amazing.
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