[user104658]

As I can no longer post in SD's (with very little explanation, by the way, and yet I'm supposed to believe that the moderating is level-headed and consistent. Snooze.);




With regard to "quoting" specifically where the problems lie in the transgender threads... I still can't do anything extensive as I'm on my phone and tbh I'm not all that inclined to any more. But for anyone who cares to do a little legwork...

I quickly came across two threads. One is about a trans female competing in the Olympics in female events, the other is about a 19 year old trans female being g a women's officer.

Both threads make good examples because I *agree* with the premise of both. I fully agree that a 19 year old who was born male should not be women's officer. I fully agree that it's unfair for a biological male to compete in a women's sporting event.

However, both threads, within the first page (as I didn't even delve deep) are absolutely FULL of loaded terminology. Repeatedly saying "he", "him", "man", "19 year old boy". The words "dick" and "cock" are used so frequently its like they've been loaded into a party popper and fired at the threads. It's pointed. It's aggressive. The sentiment behind it is VERY, VERY clear.

Those who can look at those threads and not see what I'm talking about, will never understand what I'm talking about, so there's little need for me to continue looking back further and quoting specific parts of posts.

[user104658]

ALSO Niamh, for what it's worth, the post that I had written in the thread when it was locked (that I tried to post then found out was locked) was to say that I completely disagreed with the comment on you as a parent and that from my impressions of you, I actually strongly believe that you would be completely supportive and your stance would change very quickly.

I do also agree that bringing people's kids into a discussion (that isn't actually about parenting) crosses a completely different sort of line.

[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by Toy Soldier

ALSO Niamh, for what it's worth, the post that I had written in the thread when it was locked (that I tried to post then found out was locked) was to say that I completely disagreed with the comment on you as a parent and that from my impressions of you, I actually strongly believe that you would be completely supportive and your stance would change very quickly.

I do also agree that bringing people's kids into a discussion (that isn't actually about parenting) crosses a completely different sort of line.

Thanks TS, I appreciate you saying that.

[Mokka]

Originally Posted by Toy Soldier

ALSO Niamh, for what it's worth, the post that I had written in the thread when it was locked (that I tried to post then found out was locked) was to say that I completely disagreed with the comment on you as a parent and that from my impressions of you, I actually strongly believe that you would be completely supportive and your stance would change very quickly.

I do also agree that bringing people's kids into a discussion (that isn't actually about parenting) crosses a completely different sort of line.

Although this wasn't directed to me... but about me... I guess I find it sad that someone's stance would only change when it was their kid... as opposed to seeing how much hate and hurt that stance has before it affects your household. I was pointing out just that. It's all well and good to stay in ignorance until it affects you personally I guess.

[Kazanne]

Don't really know what this is all about,but have to say most of the mods in here seem fair enough,I don't always agree with them,but at the same time they have a thankless job at times .

[Tozzie]

Originally Posted by Kazanne

Don't really know what this is all about,but have to say most of the mods in here seem fair enough,I don't always agree with them,but at the same time they have a thankless job at times .

I don't know what it's about either but it sure seems like it got pretty heated. Glad I'm not a mod or admin.

[Mitchell]

Just wanna give my support to the mods, I think they do a fantastic job

I also love that they are friendly and approachable and not afraid to join in the banter, it makes the forum seem more fun.

[Mokka]

Well i aslo feel belittled that someone expressed the felt sorry for me for having a trans kid. I dont feel sorry for myself ever. I have an inteligent beautiful child who knows themself and isn't broken or torn up by that fact since they get validation from their friends and family.

It could be worse. I could have taken an anti-trans view and sent them into emotion turmoil like many parents have over decades and beyond.
Yeah.. I'm perfectly ok with myself thanks

[Mitchell]

Originally Posted by Mokka

Well i aslo feel belittled that someone expressed the felt sorry for me for having a trans kid. I dont feel sorry for myself ever. I have an inteligent beautiful child who knows themself and isn't broken or torn up by that fact since they get validation from their friends and family.

It could be worse. I could have taken an anti-trans view and sent them into emotion turmoil like many parents have over decades and beyond.
Yeah.. I'm perfectly ok with myself thanks

I haven't seen your initial comments, but I'm so glad that your child has amazing support from you, so many parents would really struggle to deal with this, yet you're there supporting them all the way

[AnnieK]

Originally Posted by Mokka

Well i aslo feel belittled that someone expressed the felt sorry for me for having a trans kid. I dont feel sorry for myself ever. I have an inteligent beautiful child who knows themself and isn't broken or torn up by that fact since they get validation from their friends and family.

It could be worse. I could have taken an anti-trans view and sent them into emotion turmoil like many parents have over decades and beyond.
Yeah.. I'm perfectly ok with myself thanks

Unless I missed a post, it was my post that you have misread. I said I will not say I'm sorry for what you have gone through as that would mean there was something to feel sorry about and that was only after you had already made the comment to niamh.

[Tom4784]

Mokka, your attitude does not help your cause.

[Smithy]

Niamh and Vicky once cornered me in an alley called me a f*ggot and beat me black and blue

[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by Smithy

Niamh and Vicky once cornered me in an alley called me a f*ggot and beat me black and blue

[user104658]

Originally Posted by Smithy

Niamh and Vicky once cornered me in an alley called me a f*ggot and beat me black and blue

It doesn't count if you pay for it and sign a disclaimer .

[Smithy]

(This isn’t serious debates so I’m allowed to make jokes )

[smudgie]

The mods do a great job.
Modding and posting.
If I wasn’t happy with the modding I would just walk away.

[Marsh.]

Open again.

I feel like the mods are all going around a house locking and unlocking doors after one another and you're lucky if you get to peek inside before it's locked again.

[user104658]

Originally Posted by Marsh.

Open again.

I feel like the mods are all going around a house locking and unlocking doors after one another and you're lucky if you get to peek inside before it's locked again.

Well my Tapatalk has suddenly become confused by my SD ban and won't let me post anywhere! This is madness.

[Marsh.]

Originally Posted by Toy Soldier

Well my Tapatalk has suddenly become confused by my SD ban and won't let me post anywhere! This is madness.

[rusticgal]

Well don't quite know what all that **** was about...but I will say this..Niamh is a fair and tactful FM and moderater and I have huge respect for her.

[user104658]

I was legit raging thinking my SD ban had become a full ban for no reason, but no, I made the mistake of opening the PM about the SD ban and now Tapatalk is like "NOPE! Do not have permission!" about everything. I can't even send PMs!

[Tom4784]

We sometimes lock threads so we can clean it and reopen it afterwards since it's a pain to delete a bunch of posts and then have to keep deleting new posts on the same subject.

[Marsh.]

Originally Posted by Dezzy

We sometimes lock threads so we can clean it and reopen it afterwards since it's a pain to delete a bunch of posts and then have to keep deleting new posts on the same subject.

Well behave yourself.

[James]

I'm going to lock this now. I was going to do earlier before it got dramatic again, as these types of threads always end the same way, but I'll do it now.

Points noted all round.