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There She Goes is a comedy-drama about a severely learning disabled nine year-old girl Rosie (Miley Locke), her dad Simon (David Tennant), mum Emily (Jessica Hynes) and brother Ben (Edan Hayh...
I mean it's not that they're making light of it, it's meant to be a "raw" comedy, but all I can really say is... it plays out like a random couple who have been coasting through their normal life have suddenly been handed an LD 9-year-old and have no idea what to do. For THAT it seems pretty accurate. Like... they could have had the girl's mum and dad be divorced, the mum dies, and the girl has to go live full-time with dad and his wife who have to re-learn parenting and how to live. There you go, totally fine as a show. But that's not what it is, it's meant to be her actual parents, but it plays out like they've just been plonked in this situation . Realistically you start with a "normal baby", you have a toddler where some things seems slightly different, you start really noticing at 2/3/4... you grow, learn and adapt together. Parents of an LD child who seem bewlindered that their child has LD and are still flailing and panicking constantly ... is just not accurate or realistic whatsoever. And makes it seem to the casual BBC viewer like those of us with actual LD kids are at home in a constant state of chaos.
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I mean it's not that they're making light of it, it's meant to be a "raw" comedy, but all I can really say is... it plays out like a random couple who have been coasting through their normal life have suddenly been handed an LD 9-year-old and have no idea what to do. For THAT it seems pretty accurate. Like... they could have had the girl's mum and dad be divorced, the mum dies, and the girl has to go live full-time with dad and his wife who have to re-learn parenting and how to live. There you go, totally fine as a show. But that's not what it is, it's meant to be her actual parents, but it plays out like they've just been plonked in this situation . Realistically you start with a "normal baby", you have a toddler where some things seems slightly different, you start really noticing at 2/3/4... you grow, learn and adapt together. Parents of an LD child who seem bewlindered that their child has LD and are still flailing and panicking constantly ... is just not accurate or realistic whatsoever. And makes it seem to the casual BBC viewer like those of us with actual LD kids are at home in a constant state of chaos.

…oh, I’ll try to seek this out and watch it…I personal interest in such a story…I had read some quite excellent reviews and know that it’s based on personal experiences of the writers and creators etc…their daughter has a very rare disease which went undiagnosed for a lengthy time…early diagnosis always plays such an important part for families…anyway, I’ll try to find time to watch it…/see if it’s on catch up…
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I'll personally never forgive him for being a part of that frankly offensive "drama" about parenting a child with autism and learning disability. Fair enough if you're clear that you're making a drama about a couple of panicky, useless, unravelling parents who are unable to cope - that certainly happens - but it was painted as a normal/realistic look at the life with a disabled kid when it simply is not like that at all for the vast majority of people, the vast majority of the time. Off topic slightly. It just comes up to re-irk me every time I see Tennant these days.
British TV Drama is awful tbh.

I'm not surprised that garbage like what you're describing here hit (I'm going to guess) ITV's airwaves?
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that Kemi should learn to keep her gob shut



women's rights are allowed, and trans rights are allowed too, everyone is entitled to their own opinions, we aren't Russia or North Korea



also ''white privilege'' seriously Kemi, throwing the race card is almost as cliché as the boy who cried wolf
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The report that Badenoch has admitted was set up to come out with a specific result because they placed a bunch of already publicly anti-trans people on the commission, a report that has been condemned by the vast majority of health boards around the country and Europe

There are some valid concerns out there, but the answer isn’t to punish an entire demographic of people because of it and make it harder for people to be who they are, which is the entire point of the anti-trans movement, it will lead to deaths like all other previous anti-trans and anti-lgbt legislations have and I think that the majority of these ‘protect women and kids’ crowd, would be very much okay with that, because it’s not about ‘protecting’ women and kids, it’s about harming a demographic they don’t like
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If the people with genuine concerns want to be taken seriously, which they should be, maybe they shouldn’t have highlighted and elevated people who rub shoulders with Nazis and support religious fundamentalist groups who despise everything not straight and male, hateful, bigoted people have been allowed to become the face of the movement and they are driving the narratives, all while really not giving a **** about women at all
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If the people with genuine concerns want to be taken seriously, which they should be, maybe they shouldn’t have highlighted and elevated people who rub shoulders with Nazis and support religious fundamentalist groups who despise everything not straight and male, hateful, bigoted people have been allowed to become the face of the movement and they are driving the narratives, all while really not giving a **** about women at all
Oh Liam come on, it doesn't matter how it's said or by who, people are always shut down if they raise concerns.
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Oh Liam come on, it doesn't matter how it's said or by who, people are always shut down if they raise concerns.
Also controversially even bad people can say things that you agree with sometimes.

It doesn't mean you have to like them obviously.

And I mean this away from just the Trans topic, but on other topics too.
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Also controversially even bad people can say things that you agree with sometimes.



It doesn't mean you have to like them obviously.



And I mean this away from just the Trans topic, but on other topics too.
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Yeah I dont associate with any of those types, don't follow Posie Parker, not a Trump supporter, not a particularly good Catholic, I'm just me with my own concerns but I am still called a TERF and a bigot and various other names I am sure, and there are alot of people like me, so how do you square that one Liam?
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Yeah I dont associate with any of those types, don't follow Posie Parker, not a Trump supporter, not a particularly good Catholic, I'm just me with my own concerns but I am still called a TERF and a bigot and various other names I am sure, and there are alot of people like me, so how do you square that one Liam?
so stunned I have not had a response to this?
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Badenoch achieved A Levels from Phoenix College, a further education college in Morden, south London, whilst working at a branch of McDonald's among other jobs.[7][10] Badenoch studied Computer Systems Engineering at the University of Sussex, completing a Master of Engineering (MEng) degree in 2003.[13][14]

She initially worked within the IT sector, first as a software engineer at Logica (later CGI Group) from 2003 to 2006. While working there she read Law part-time at Birkbeck, University of London, graduating as Bachelor of Laws (LLB) in 2009.[10] Badenoch then worked as a systems analyst at the Royal Bank of Scotland Group,[15] before pursuing a career in consultancy and financial services, working as an associate director at private bank and wealth manager Coutts from 2006 to 2013 and later a digital director for The Spectator from 2015 to 2016.
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if ur parents are a doctor and a professor at a university, you didn't exactly grow up poor


so i massively doubt Kemi has lived a bad life, or knows what struggles are



Nigeria and UK have a good relationship as well, many nigerian people (businesspeople, doctors, professors) go to the UK to study as well
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The Prime Minister said:

Freedom of speech is the most powerful feature of our democracy.

If you’re calling for women to shut up and wishing they didn’t exist, you are the problem
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Tenant finding out now he does not have as many friends as he once thought...
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Kemi needs extra Security
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Inciting violence against women, what a great chap he is
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I seem to recall someone else inciting violence recently, we wont put these 2 together in the same box though I am sure
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During his acceptance speech, Tennant referred to the Conservative MP Kemi
Badenoch. To whoops from the crowd, he talked the usual pabulum about
everyone being whatever they say they are. Which is to say that if a child
says they feel slightly feminine or boyish you should put them on drugs and
then chop their bits off. Tennant seems to believe this and lamented how
bigoted the world is ‘until we wake up and Kemi Badenoch doesn’t exist any
more’. He went on, hilariously: ‘I don’t wish ill of her, I just wish her to shut
up.’

It is hard to think of any other situation in which such intolerant and ugly
language would be used, let alone of a black woman. But Tennant felt
emboldened to say it because he had been anointed an ‘ally’ or honorary
‘queer’ by whatever disastrous body hands out these trophies. It is time to
realise that too much goes on under the guise of ‘pride’. Including prejudice.



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i don't get why anyone listens to the guy. What happened to the times where you could just ignore someone who is being an arse. That's what i do, and it's a lot less stressful

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I don't get why anyone would want men dressed as prostitutes reading to infants

but lots of people think its ok and normal

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LT must be REALLY triggered by pantomime’s huh

I wonder how many kids have been shot at in school this year


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