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The reason he carried on doing it was because he was arrogant ... MJ knew he had the power and the money to buy himself out of every situation he got himself into
Also most pedos who actually get convicted reoffend so I don't know why they think MJ would stop just because he's rich? Surely that would make him less likely to stop?
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when those men tried to sue his estate before it got thrown out, why do you think that is?
I feel like this bit needs focused on alone because its been answered so many times but keeps coming back up.

Wade Robson brought a civil case against MJ and one against MJ's management company. The case against MJ was dismissed on technical grounds because it had been too long since his death. The case against the company was dismissed on technical grounds because it was decided that a management company can't be held responsible for the acts of an individual.

It has been made clear BY THE COURTS THEMSELVES that neither case was dismissed based on the validity of the claims being questioned; they never went to trial.

So why keep asking "why do you think those cases were dismissed?" as though you want the answer to be that they were found to be lying. They weren't. It was never examined in court. It was dismissed because of technical grounds.

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Also most pedos who actually get convicted reoffend so I don't know why they think MJ would stop just because he's rich? Surely that would make him less likely to stop?
gary glitter being an obvious example
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Also most pedos who actually get convicted reoffend so I don't know why they think MJ would stop just because he's rich? Surely that would make him less likely to stop?
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La Toya Jackson confirmed this, I believe her!
Me too 100% ,her telling about her mother writing cheques to cover MJ arse so they could keep a roof over their heads !! the mother is as sick as him
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I feel like this bit needs focused on alone because its been answered so many times but keeps coming back up.

Wade Robson brought a civil case against MJ and one against MJ's management company. The case against MJ was dismissed on technical grounds because it had been too long since his death. The case against the company was dismissed on technical grounds because it was decided that a management company can't be held responsible for the acts of an individual.

It has been made clear BY THE COURTS THEMSELVES that neither case was dismissed based on the validity of the claims being questioned; they never went to trial.

So why keep asking "why do you think those cases were dismissed?" as though you want the answer to be that they were found to be lying. They weren't. It was never examined in court. It was dismissed because of technical grounds.

Theres nothing more to say.
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I feel like this bit needs focused on alone because its been answered so many times but keeps coming back up.

Wade Robson brought a civil case against MJ and one against MJ's management company. The case against MJ was dismissed on technical grounds because it had been too long since his death. The case against the company was dismissed on technical grounds because it was decided that a management company can't be held responsible for the acts of an individual.

It has been made clear BY THE COURTS THEMSELVES that neither case was dismissed based on the validity of the claims being questioned; they never went to trial.

So why keep asking "why do you think those cases were dismissed?" as though you want the answer to be that they were found to be lying. They weren't. It was never examined in court. It was dismissed because of technical grounds.

Theres nothing more to say.
So why did he get aquitted at his trial ?
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So why did he get aquitted at his trial ?
I'm not sure but there is a story going round that he was being investigated for abusing 2 Mexican boys by the FBI and they seemingly found a video intitled Michael Jackson favourite boys at neverland..seemingly the FBI did not further any investigation because jackson was about to receive an award from the president...Clinton.



So it was probably down to his fame and power.

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I would like to know if the bank showed all the cheques La Toya claimed she saw her Mother write to parents of some children
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I'm not sure but there is a story going round that he was being investigated for abusing 2 Mexican boys by the FBI and they seemingly found a video intitled Michael Jackson favourite boys at neverland..seemingly the FBI did not further any investigation because jackson was about to receive an award from the president...Clinton.



So it was probably down to his fame and power.
So you are you saying the FBI,the police and child services are all liars and corrupt?plus no doubt there will be 100s of allegations now they are exactly what you said 'stories'
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I would like to know if the bank showed all the cheques La Toya claimed she saw her Mother write to parents of some children
She retracted it all later ,she had fell out with the family at that time,and I am sure if she was telling the truth cheques can be traced and letters.
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This is also an opposite opinion, if anyone cares to bother to hear some of the other side of this ,maybe this is why some believe those two are not as they seem and Parmy the boy with cancer Gavin is mentioned in here,its a bit annoying as it starts with a song so fast forward to the interviews then there is another break too so fast forward too, I know some wont be bothered but some might like to hear both sides,fast forward to 7.07 then again later, it's quite long ,but interesting.

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So why did he get aquitted at his trial ?
He got acquitted Kazanne because after a high profile trial,and extensive thorough investigation.
He was found to be not guilty on not just one of the charges he was in court for, but for every one of them.

Something it seems, is considered irrelevant.

As for for their cash claim they made.
The court dismissed it.
Not giving any consideration to it.
Yes the time lapse was relevant however the court effectively ruled out the claim.

No footnote to the decision at all.

Why wait so long to start and change their story and then make a claim is open to all possibilities.

It could be they are now telling the truth, as some believe.
I still don't.
My suspicious mind leads me to thinking they possibly may have waited to see if they'd been left anything from Michael Jackson.
When they hadn't.
Hence where things are now.

That possibility will be shouted down strongly I know that.

However to me, in my personal view only, it's a valid avenue to go down for possible consideration.

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He got acquitted Kazanne because after a high profile trial,and extensive thorough investigation.
He was found to be not guilty on not just one of the charges he was in court for, but for every one of them.

Something it seems, is considered irrelevant.

As for for their cash claim they made.
The court dismissed it.
Not giving any consideration to it.
Yes the time lapse was relevant however the court effectively ruled out the claim.

No footnote to the decision at all.

Why wait so long to start and change their story and then make a claim is open to all possibilities.

It could be they are now telling the truth, as some believe.
I still don't.
My suspicious mind leads me to thinking they possibly may have waited to see if they'd been left anything from Michael Jackson.
When they hadn't.
Hence where things are now.

That possibility will be shouted down strongly I know that.

However to me, in my personal view only, it's a valid avenue to go down for possible consideration.
Try and watch the video I have just posted Joey,let me know what you think, it sounds more truthful than they did.This video is about all the boys including Gavin, pointless some watching as they have already made thier minds up,but, we are not alone ,lol (excuse the pun)
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This is also an opposite opinion, if anyone cares to bother to hear some of the other side of this ,maybe this is why some believe those two are not as they seem and Parmy the boy with cancer Gavin is mentioned in here,its a bit annoying as it starts with a song so fast forward to the interviews then there is another break too so fast forward too, I know some wont be bothered but some might like to hear both sides,fast forward to 7.07 then again later, it's quite long ,but interesting.

Yeah, I saw this yesterday. Excellent video.
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So you are you saying the FBI,the police and child services are all liars and corrupt?plus no doubt there will be 100s of allegations now they are exactly what you said 'stories'
There is photographic evidence of the documents at the time but I can't be arsed looking for them again.
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This is also an opposite opinion, if anyone cares to bother to hear some of the other side of this ,maybe this is why some believe those two are not as they seem and Parmy the boy with cancer Gavin is mentioned in here,its a bit annoying as it starts with a song so fast forward to the interviews then there is another break too so fast forward too, I know some wont be bothered but some might like to hear both sides,fast forward to 7.07 then again later, it's quite long ,but interesting.

I will when the rugby's done.....but I already don't trust his beard.
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There is photographic evidence of the documents at the time but I can't be arsed looking for them again.
If there was that would have been also used against him, sorry Parmy no way would FBI , child services and police all be corrupt and if there is evidence that would generate huge amounts of publicity and money.
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She retracted it all later ,she had fell out with the family at that time,and I am sure if she was telling the truth cheques can be traced and letters.
Yeah wasn't this during the period she was with her abusive husband who kept her at arms length from her family?

I'm sure she discussed this in CBB.
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