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cub · 19-01-2011, 11:15 AM

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Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

and why is it different from a club that turns away ugly folk?

Legally they can't is the answer. It's up to the discrimated to challenge that, as these two men have.

Crimson Dynamo · 19-01-2011, 11:18 AM

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Originally Posted by cub

Legally they can't is the answer. It's up to the discrimated to challenge that, as these two men have.

I would have turned them away due to their clothes

Crimson Dynamo · 19-01-2011, 10:26 AM

and the lesson is

when 2 gay blokes arrive at your b and b

tell them "sorry we have no rooms available"

sorted

cub · 19-01-2011, 11:21 AM

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Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

and the lesson is

when 2 gay blokes arrive at your b and b

tell them "sorry we have no rooms available"

sorted

Yes, these bigots should have made an excuse up. If I was running a B&B and two undesirables came to my door I'd make up a story - 'we've had a leak, someone has taken the last room, we're redecorating', anything - but of course as Christians they were upfront and honest about it.

Unfortunately they are not very good at business if they neglected to think they could be above the sexual discrimination law.

Angus · 19-01-2011, 12:57 PM

The fact that sexual discrimination is seen as worse than religious discrimination is in itself discriminatory

It seems some people in this country are MORE equal than others.

MrWong · 19-01-2011, 01:06 PM

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Originally Posted by angus58

The fact that sexual discrimination is seen as worse than religious discrimination is in itself discriminatory

It seems some people in this country are MORE equal than others.

Religion is a choice. Are you saying sexuality is a choice?

Crimson Dynamo · 19-01-2011, 01:11 PM

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Originally Posted by MrWong

Religion is a choice. Are you saying sexuality is a choice?

It is a choice to talk about it or act upon it.

Jack_ · 19-01-2011, 01:37 PM

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Originally Posted by angus58

The fact that sexual discrimination is seen as worse than religious discrimination is in itself discriminatory

It seems some people in this country are MORE equal than others.

Of course it's worse. Race, gender and sexuality are all things that cannot be chosen. Religion can.

Crimson Dynamo · 19-01-2011, 01:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Jack_

Of course it's worse. Race, gender and sexuality are all things that cannot be chosen. Religion can.

Wishful thinking

sexuality is unknown in terms of when it kicks in - it does not belong with race or gender I am afraid

cub · 19-01-2011, 03:05 PM

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Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

Wishful thinking

sexuality is unknown in terms of when it kicks in - it does not belong with race or gender I am afraid

I think you will find it does in the modern world.

Crimson Dynamo · 19-01-2011, 03:38 PM

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Originally Posted by cub

I think you will find it does in the modern world.

unfortunately that makes no sense

Angus · 19-01-2011, 02:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Jack_

Of course it's worse. Race, gender and sexuality are all things that cannot be chosen. Religion can.

Many cultures indoctrinate (or should we say brainwash) their offspring from the day they are born - so it is NOT a matter of choice for very many people. Furthermore, the jury is STILL out on whether or not homosexuality is innate or a learned behaviour and until that little matter is empirically proven (which to date it has not been), one could argue that gay people have no particular right to preferential treatment over other minority groups.

cub · 19-01-2011, 03:04 PM

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Originally Posted by angus58

The fact that sexual discrimination is seen as worse than religious discrimination is in itself discriminatory

It seems some people in this country are MORE equal than others.

There should not be any religious discrimination, I agree, as long as it doesn't affecting the rights of others. I am quite happy that the beliefs of others are upheld until it affect the law. The law must always be a priority and must be fair to all. If it is in a person's religion to ban gays, blacks, other religions, women and so on then that is at odds with the law.

Crimson Dynamo · 19-01-2011, 03:45 PM

http://www.christian.org.uk/news/vid...-court-ruling/

check the title of the you tube video from the page above (mouse over it)

oops

arista · 20-01-2011, 11:33 AM

They were just on ITV1

lgejonson · 22-01-2011, 03:10 PM

[QUOTE=LeatherTrumpet;4061113]http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-bristol-12214368

The owners of a hotel who refused to allow a gay couple a double room acted unlawfully, a judge has ruled.

Peter and Hazelmary Bull, of the Chymorvah Hotel, near Penzance, said as Christians they did not believe unmarried couples should share a room.

Martyn Hall and his civil partner Steven Preddy, from Bristol, said the incident in September 2008 was "direct discrimination" against them.

They were awarded £1,800 each in damages at Bristol County Court.

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A STING BY ACTIVISTS! WHY DO HOMOSEXUALS AND LESBIANS WANT MORE RIGHTS THAN ANYONE ELSE?

_Seth · 22-01-2011, 03:14 PM

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Originally Posted by lgejonson

A STING BY ACTIVISTS! WHY DO HOMOSEXUALS AND LESBIANS WANT MORE RIGHTS THAN ANYONE ELSE?

We don't want more, we want EQUAL rights. That Christian couple would allow a straight married couple to stay there but not a gay married couple.

MrWong · 22-01-2011, 03:18 PM

[QUOTE=lgejonson;4066703]

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Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-bristol-12214368

The owners of a hotel who refused to allow a gay couple a double room acted unlawfully, a judge has ruled.

Peter and Hazelmary Bull, of the Chymorvah Hotel, near Penzance, said as Christians they did not believe unmarried couples should share a room.

Martyn Hall and his civil partner Steven Preddy, from Bristol, said the incident in September 2008 was "direct discrimination" against them.

They were awarded £1,800 each in damages at Bristol County Court.

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A STING BY ACTIVISTS! WHY DO HOMOSEXUALS AND LESBIANS WANT MORE RIGHTS THAN ANYONE ELSE?

More rights??? Don't be silly.

They want equal rights.

MrWong · 22-01-2011, 03:24 PM

The bigoted bint is still whinging in the press about the courts ruling.
Putting blame for her financial woes on this court case with no mention that her case was funded by the christian institutute. Her appeal will be funded by them aswell.

They've helped lots of other homophobes too.

Lovely bunch.

cub · 22-01-2011, 04:24 PM

[QUOTE=lgejonson;4066703]

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Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-bristol-12214368

The owners of a hotel who refused to allow a gay couple a double room acted unlawfully, a judge has ruled.

Peter and Hazelmary Bull, of the Chymorvah Hotel, near Penzance, said as Christians they did not believe unmarried couples should share a room.

Martyn Hall and his civil partner Steven Preddy, from Bristol, said the incident in September 2008 was "direct discrimination" against them.

They were awarded £1,800 each in damages at Bristol County Court.

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A STING BY ACTIVISTS! WHY DO HOMOSEXUALS AND LESBIANS WANT MORE RIGHTS THAN ANYONE ELSE?

Why is equal rights seen as 'more rights'?