[chuff me dizzy]

Originally Posted by EyeballPaul

Exactly.Oppression creates resentment,anarchy and extremism.

EXACTLY, thats why i fight for freedom of speech and always will

[Marsh.]

Originally Posted by chuff me dizzy

Because they thought they should ,for what reason i dont know, i can only speak from experience ,When i was small I lived on a 100% white street,black people and asian people were hardly over here then ...... then 2 black families moved in ,then an asian family EVERYONE got on with everyone ,why can't it be like that now? because people are sick of being told what they can say and not say ,my daughter was called white trash at school by a mixed race child ,when i complained i was told it wasn't racist !!

Because obviously this utopian street is representative of the whole country if not the whole world.

Black people and other minorities had it so easy back then.

[ebandit]

if ken was champion of free speech he would manage to express his opinion

without insulting

Mark L

[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by chuff me dizzy

Because they thought they should ,for what reason i dont know, i can only speak from experience ,When i was small I lived on a 100% white street,black people and asian people were hardly over here then ...... then 2 black families moved in ,then an asian family EVERYONE got on with everyone ,why can't it be like that now? because people are sick of being told what they can say and not say ,my daughter was called white trash at school by a mixed race child ,when i complained i was told it wasn't racist !!

Ah Chuff come on, people don't campaign to change things if everything is just fine and no one is upset, that makes no sense at all. Maybe where you lived was the exception to the rule but you've just heard here from a black person an account of what his father went through and someone else posted a link about how black people still were expected to stand up for a white person on buses in the 50's so clearly it was very much an issue, one that you didn't see obviously

[chuff me dizzy]

Originally Posted by GiRTh

You seem to have re-written history there. I dont recall this Utopia. I do recall my father telling me about how he was gonna kill this guy at work in the 60's cuz the guy had been winding him up all day. The concept of my mild mannered dad actually killing someone is something I cannot get my head around so this guy must have really wound him up get him in such a state. Your recollections are not what I remember or my family remember.

Over the colour of his skin or another reason ?

[Liam-]

Originally Posted by ebandit

if ken was champion of free speech he would manage to express his opinion

without insulting

Mark L

Exactly this

[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by ebandit

if ken was champion of free speech he would manage to express his opinion

without insulting

Mark L

excellent point

[Marsh.]

Perfect World Rule 304: The victim did something to deserve it.

[LukeB]

this thread is so messy

[chuff me dizzy]

Originally Posted by Niamh.

Ah Chuff come on, people don't campaign to change things if everything is just fine and no one is upset, that makes no sense at all. Maybe where you lived was the exception to the rule but you've just heard here from a black person an account of what his father went through and someone else posted a link about how black people still were expected to stand up for a white person on buses in the 50's so clearly it was very much an issue, one that you didn't see obviously

Im speaking of what i know .......I never saw a black person have to stand for a white person on our buses, that didn't happen in England, this person must be talking of USA

[Marsh.]

Originally Posted by chuff me dizzy

Im speaking of what i know .......I never saw a black person have to stand for a white person on our buses, that didn't happen in England, this person must be talking of USA

You never saw. So therefore it never happened.

Tunnel vision at its best.

[Gusto Brunt]

Originally Posted by Pincho Paxton

I don't believe in free speech. Newspapers want free speech because they make money from it.

I don't believe in free speech either. There are always boundaries, taste and decency...

[Northern Monkey]

Originally Posted by chuff me dizzy

EXACTLY, thats why i fight for freedom of speech and always will

Imo freedom of speech does'nt exist as long as laws exist.For example you can't legally threaten somebody.I think the whole concept of freedom of speech is a myth.There is always a limit to what one can say.

[Liam-]

Originally Posted by chuff me dizzy

Im speaking of what i know .......I never saw a black person have to stand for a white person on our buses, that didn't happen in England, this person must be talking of USA

Originally Posted by LiamPRW

Some people live life with rose tinted glasses, if they didn't see it happen, it couldn't have happened, that seems like the case here.

I hate to say i told you so.

[chuff me dizzy]

Originally Posted by Gusto Brunt

I don't believe in free speech either. There are always boundaries, taste and decency...

Our relatives died in wars to give us our freedom ,we have rights too you know ,what a sick thing to say "I dont believe in freedom of speech"

[Liam-]

Lmfao, that's the thing she finds sick, brilliant.

[Jake.]

Originally Posted by chuff me dizzy

my daughter was called white trash at school by a mixed race child ,when i complained i was told it wasn't racist !!

Why would you complain if you believe and fight for (what you define as) free speech?

[Marsh.]

Originally Posted by LiamPRW

Lmfao, that's the thing she finds sick, brilliant.

Shut it gay boy.

[Jake.]

Originally Posted by Marsh.

You never saw. So therefore it never happened.

Tunnel vision at its best.

Pretty much what this thread contains.

[Marsh.]

Originally Posted by Jake.

Why would you complain if you believe and fight for (what you define as) free speech?

Nail. Head.

[GiRTh]

Originally Posted by chuff me dizzy

Over the colour of his skin or another reason ?

Are you trying to wind me up. Of course it was over the colour of his skin. There were monkey remarks and chant, sambo, darky, n****, nig nog, coon all that good sh*t. My dad was working as a laborer on a building site and the guy had been at him all day. My dad jumped out of a forklift and luckily someone stepped in but strangely the abuse stopped after that.

Dont try and be clever you're recollection of history is bullsh*t and you know it.

[MB.]

Originally Posted by Jake.

Why would you complain if you believe and fight for (what you define as) free speech?

Reading the whole the whole thread would just make my head hurt so I'll repeat this.

Don't defend something that you wouldn't defend if the tables were turned.

[Daniel.]

Originally Posted by chuff me dizzy

my daughter was called white trash at school by a mixed race child ,when i complained i was told it wasn't racist !!

That's because it's not racist, rude yes, but not racist.

I won't get into that now

[Liam-]

Originally Posted by Marsh.

Shut it gay boy.

Typical of a straight person, you make me sick

[Jake.]

Originally Posted by GiRTh

Dont try and be clever you're recollection of history is bullsh*t and you know it.

Using the term 'recollection' is pushing it, if I didn't know better I'd say that history was being re-written.