[Withano]

Originally Posted by Livia

What is the question you'd like answered, withano?

I have said clearly I do not find transsexuals attractive, in much the same way I don't find men under 5'5" attractive. So I'm getting a LITTLE tired of having to explain myself.

I think hes asking you to think metaphorically, in a situation where you meet that blatantly attractive man, at what point would he become an unattractive transman?

[Smithy]

Originally Posted by Withano

I think hes asking you to think metaphorically, in a situation where you meet that blatantly attractive man, at what point would he become an unattractive transman?

Christ at least some people on this site have common sense

[Brillopad]

Originally Posted by Withano

I think hes asking you to think metaphorically, in a situation where you meet that blatantly attractive man, at what point would he become an unattractive transman?

As a woman I would imagine at the point you discovered he had once been a woman.

[Withano]

Originally Posted by Brillopad

As a woman I would imagine at the point you discovered he had once been a woman.

So its more your issue than theirs? (I'm not saying you're wrong but just to clarify, this is in your own head?)

[Livia]

Originally Posted by Withano

I think hes asking you to think metaphorically, in a situation where you meet that blatantly attractive man, at what point would he become an unattractive transman?

I have met lots of attractive men. And if it got to the point of undressing in the bedroom and they had not told me clearly they were transsexual, when they pulled out their constructed penis, I would be calling for a cab.

[Vicky.]

Originally Posted by Livia

I have met lots of attractive men. And if it got to the point of undressing in the bedroom and they had not told me clearly they were transsexual, when they pulled out their constructed penis, I would be calling for a cab.

Well indeed. People can say no at any stage and thats fine surely. Even with biological men, sorry if this makes me shallow or whatever but if I was really attracted til I got him undressed then I saw a micropenis or balls the size of bowling balls....or loads and loads of saggy skin or something, sorry that would be a no.

And before anyone tries to turn this on me, no I wouldn't be arsed if someone decided to say no once I was naked for whatever reason. Tis life. It may be a bit hurtful sure, but I would get over it.

[Lynette69]

Sadly throughout my life my choices have been made (I hope) without any bias or prejudice ... am I a saint ? Nope but as a fat bi disabled person I have been constantly aware of the unequality and bias that exists. My point is though I do believe that people assume that ur acceptance and support is 100% guaranteed if for example a bi woman goes to a gay bar and trust me on many many levels a gay bar to me offers as many problems as visiting a 'straight' bar in fact more in some experiences. Just on cbb examples of bias is constant from EVERYONE ... the misgendering ... likening a drag queen to a clown ... I don't need go on do I ?? And on a purely personal note ... if its the year of the woman and all aspects of society have been given a voice where is a disabled womans voice ? Ohhhhh I see they couldn't get the time off from basket weaving !!!! Lol ... sorry my little attempt at humour ...

[Smithy]

Originally Posted by Lynette69

Sadly throughout my life my choices have been made (I hope) without any bias or prejudice ... am I a saint ? Nope but as a fat bi disabled person I have been constantly aware of the unequality and bias that exists. My point is though I do believe that people assume that ur acceptance and support is 100% guaranteed if for example a bi woman goes to a gay bar and trust me on many many levels a gay bar to me offers as many problems as visiting a 'straight' bar in fact more in some experiences. Just on cbb examples of bias is constant from EVERYONE ... the misgendering ... likening a drag queen to a clown ... I don't need go on do I ?? And on a purely personal note ... if its the year of the woman and all aspects of society have been given a voice where is a disabled womans voice ? Ohhhhh I see they couldn't get the time off from basket weaving !!!! Lol ... sorry my little attempt at humour ...

Lilbro stop making multis

[Ant.]

Originally Posted by Smithy

Lilbro stop making multis

I'm a skinny gay disabled person! Okay maybe I've got a bit of a stomach but it's my inability to exercise :Oh

[Cherie]

The question in the OP suggests you would know from the get go, you can move the goalposts and add in all other variables which is what is happening here, in truth unless it has actually happened to us none of us know what we would do if we didn't know from the outset but that is not the question

[Withano]

Originally Posted by Cherie

The question in the OP suggests you would know from the get go, you can move the goalposts and add in all other variables which is what is happening here, in truth unless it has actually happened to us none of us know what we would do if we didn't know from the outset but that is not the question

Yes, but discussing why doesn't seem entirely offtopic. No point making a new thread for that side question, calm down.

[Cherie]

Originally Posted by Withano

Yes, but discussing why doesn't seem entirely offtopic. No point making a new thread for that side question, calm down.

Calm down I was making a point should I run it by you first before I post as you seem to want to veto mainly females right to post

[Lynette69]

And there endeth the reason that in 2018 the struggle for all equality still goes on cos it's 'our problem'. Oh dear ...

[Lynette69]

On this word constructed ... does that mean a so called straight man wouldn't sleep with a woman who had had breast reconstruction then because surely just by definition they would have been constructed? In fact any kind of cosmetic surgery ....

[Livia]

Originally Posted by Lynette69

On this word constructed ... does that mean a so called straight man wouldn't sleep with a woman who had had breast reconstruction then because surely just by definition they would have been constructed? In fact any kind of cosmetic surgery ....

No. Because women have the XX chromosome and men have the XY chromosome and no amount of surgery or counselling will ever change that.

It's nothing to do with surgery, it's nothing to do with liking someone or wanting them to do well. It's about not being attracted to someone who has the same set of chromosomes that I have.

And I'm sure everyone on here questioning me, and it seems you're all gay or bi, right? You have my blessing to sleep with whoever the hell it is you're attracted to and afford me the same courtesy.

[Brillopad]

Originally Posted by Lynette69

On this word constructed ... does that mean a so called straight man wouldn't sleep with a woman who had had breast reconstruction then because surely just by definition they would have been constructed? In fact any kind of cosmetic surgery ....

Many men are turned off by plastic boobs. Is that not allowed?

[Marsh.]

Originally Posted by Lynette69

On this word constructed ... does that mean a so called straight man wouldn't sleep with a woman who had had breast reconstruction then because surely just by definition they would have been constructed? In fact any kind of cosmetic surgery ....

Yes there are some men who don't find fake tits attractive. Shocking I know.

[Lynette69]

Oiiiii I'm me .... who is lilbro ????

[Ant.]

Originally Posted by Lynette69

Oiiiii I'm me .... who is lilbro ????

I'm you, but stronger

[Lynette69]

Wait I'm not the only crip in the village ... ohhhh that's new !!!!!

[Ant.]

Originally Posted by Lynette69

Wait I'm not the only crip in the village ... ohhhh that's new !!!!!

Welcome to the forum

[Lynette69]

Lol ty lilbro x

[Lynette69]

I do not knock preference ... what I do question is the word constructed ... and really u want to use genetics etc ? Sorry not had enough caffeine yet .. brew anyone ?

[Withano]

Originally Posted by Lynette69

I do not knock preference ... what I do question is the word constructed ... and really u want to use genetics etc ? Sorry not had enough caffeine yet .. brew anyone ?

I'm with you. It is hard to believe that Livia has a chromosome fetish.

[Livia]

Originally Posted by Lynette69

I do not knock preference ... what I do question is the word constructed ... and really u want to use genetics etc ? Sorry not had enough caffeine yet .. brew anyone ?

They construct a penis. It is not a natural penis. It's not complicated.... so please lets not bring this interesting and important discussion down to semantics.

And yes, I really want to use genetics. Because it's relevant.