[jaxie]

Originally Posted by poppsywoppsy

I think Anne's remarks are not racist but a reference to those courtiers in the Royal Household who can make a new member of the family feel like it is racism.

Can anyone recently remember the Marquis of Baths daughter in law who is of mixed race and her husbands mother mentioned spoiling the bloodline if they had children.

I think racism in the aristocracy is still happening and if it was difficult for Diana to cope with these people whilst being a member of the aristocracy, think how it might be for Meghan.

This is what I think Anne meant.

While the Royals accept Meghan with open arms this does not mean the courtiers, sycophants and toadies will and can cause her no end of hurts.

I do not care for this "What Meghan can bring to the Royals" claptrap. They do not need her, a divorced, older actress of mixed parentage, at all. She has a huge debt to Diana for paving the way as the Royals cannot have another scandal as they only hung on after Charles and Camilla nearly lost all respect for the Royal family and it is only the Queen, William and Kate holding it together.

I noticed that Meghan was using her acting and posing skills when interviewed for the engagement, far too cocky and confident. However, it was different at Christmas when she was quite nervous and she has to know she is a junior member, not the star.

I think this is the trouble Anne meant also.

I wonder if Meghan will be able to cope with being second to Kate. Over time it might rankle. Particularly if she is entering this life as a form of performance.

[poppsywoppsy]

Originally Posted by jaxie

I wonder if Meghan will be able to cope with being second to Kate. Over time it might rankle. Particularly if she is entering this life as a form of performance.

I do think Harry had a crush on Kate and envied his brothers life with her.

I do wonder if Harry is being genuine in his feelings for Meghan as he could not have gone more against traditional Royal bride requirements, if he tried.

Divorced, Older, Actress, Mixed Race.

I do hope he is in love with Meghan and not wanting just to push the boundaries.

Then does Meghan want children, it will be an interesting mix of genes.

I honestly think all these maybes is what Anne was referring to.

[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by poppsywoppsy

I do think Harry had a crush on Kate and envied his brothers life with her.

I do wonder if Harry is being genuine in his feelings for Meghan as he could not have gone more against traditional Royal bride requirements, if he tried.

Divorced, Older, Actress, Mixed Race.

I do hope he is in love with Meghan and not wanting just to push the boundaries.

Then does Meghan want children, it will be an interesting mix of genes.

I honestly think all these maybes is what Anne was referring to.

How on Earth could you decide Harry has a crush on Kate, I'm genuinely curious how you came to that conclusion?

[Marsh.]

Originally Posted by poppsywoppsy

I do wonder if Harry is being genuine in his feelings for Meghan as he could not have gone more against traditional Royal bride requirements, if he tried.

Really? He could have done a lot more if rebellion was on his mind.

Rich, charitable, famous. She's not all that different.

And everyone making a fuss over this apparent age gap. It's less than three years ffs.

[GreenIce]

Originally Posted by poppsywoppsy

Then does Meghan want children, it will be an interesting mix of genes.

Kate and William already have an interesting mix of genes. As I commented earlier, Meghan could be a sister of Pippa Middleton. George and Charlotte have brown eyes, the blue eyes have gone from the infant heirs to the throne. It's interesting how the tabloids keep pushing how much Charlotte looks like the Queen, but she doesn't, she looks like Carole Middleton.

[Maru]

Harry always seemed the sort who wouldn't want to marry deeper into the royal family. And to be fair, wouldn't she really more of a modern princess anyway? She's an American actress from LA... so she is going to be all sorts of tech savvy and know all about keeping a brand, especially if her face is tied to any organizations. Isn't that really what a defunct royal family is in 2018, anyway? A brand?

[Marsh.]

Originally Posted by Maru

Harry always seemed the sort who wouldn't want to marry deeper into the royal family. And to be fair, wouldn't she really more of a modern princess anyway? She's an American actress from LA... so she is going to be all sorts of tech savvy and know all about keeping a brand, especially if her face is tied to any organizations. Isn't that really what a defunct royal family is in 2018, anyway? A brand?

Exactly. They're function is merely a reminder of a once upon a time tradition that serve very little purpose in the modern world.

They're basically English Kardashians.

[poppsywoppsy]

They were always together, laughing and enjoying each other's company when William was doing his duties elsewhere.

They obviously got on very well and Kate's family life was something William craved and Harry too.

I am not saying there was anything more but Harry always mooned after Kate, we saw it frequently and spoke about it.

Meghan doesn't look a million miles unlike Kate either. That's how on earth I could say it.

[GreenIce]

Meghan and Pippa.

http://www.elleuk.com/life-and-cultu...alike/?slide=1

[Niamh.]

Meghan is better looking though

[jet]

Maybe Ann was thinking about how Meghan is going to fit in to royal life, and is she up to it. Both Diana and Fergie were used to being around the royals since they were young; Diana's father had been the Queens equerry and Fergie's father was Charles' polo manager. Yet they both spoke of the coldness and restrictions put upon them by the stuffy 'men in the grey suits' who put added strains on their marriages.
I doubt Meghan knows how the royal show really works and who really runs that show - not the Queen or Charles etc but those same stuffy advisers and I doubt they are much different these days. How is an young woman used to independence and a successful career of her own going to fit in with such a structured and stifling atmosphere? Diana and Fergie couldn't manage it. They were both free spirits in their own individual ways. They liked the spotlight and in the royal family that doesn't go down well at all. I sense that Megan likes the spotlight too and could be a bit too pushy for their liking.
Kate had about 10 years of dating William to learn the ropes and be sure she could cope with it all. She also had no job of her own and seems to be more retiring and not the type to push herself forward.
So I don't know - Meghan just doesn't seem to me to be ideal, quiet, obedient royal wife material, and in that family you have to be. Otherwise they can eat you up and spit you out.

[rusticgal]

Originally Posted by jet

Maybe Ann was thinking about how Meghan is going to fit in to royal life, and is she up to it. Both Diana and Fergie were used to being around the royals since they were young; Diana's father had been the Queens equerry and Fergie's father was Charles' polo manager. Yet they both spoke of the coldness and restrictions put upon them by the stuffy 'men in the grey suits' who put added strains on their marriages.
I doubt Meghan knows how the royal show really works and who really runs that show - not the Queen or Charles etc but those same stuffy advisers and I doubt they are much different these days. How is an young woman used to independence and a successful career of her own going to fit in with such a structured and stifling atmosphere? Diana and Fergie couldn't manage it. They were both free spirits in their own individual ways. They liked the spotlight and in the royal family that doesn't go down well at all. I sense that Megan likes the spotlight too and could be a bit too pushy for their liking.
Kate had about 10 years of dating William to learn the ropes and be sure she could cope with it all. She also had no job of her own and seems to be more retiring and not the type to push herself forward.
So I don't know - Meghan just doesn't seem to me to be ideal, quiet, obedient royal wife material, and in that family you have to be. Otherwise they can eat you up and spit you out.

Great post Jet...think you have hit the nail on the head.

[chuff me dizzy]

Originally Posted by jet

Maybe Ann was thinking about how Meghan is going to fit in to royal life, and is she up to it. Both Diana and Fergie were used to being around the royals since they were young; Diana's father had been the Queens equerry and Fergie's father was Charles' polo manager. Yet they both spoke of the coldness and restrictions put upon them by the stuffy 'men in the grey suits' who put added strains on their marriages.
I doubt Meghan knows how the royal show really works and who really runs that show - not the Queen or Charles etc but those same stuffy advisers and I doubt they are much different these days. How is an young woman used to independence and a successful career of her own going to fit in with such a structured and stifling atmosphere? Diana and Fergie couldn't manage it. They were both free spirits in their own individual ways. They liked the spotlight and in the royal family that doesn't go down well at all. I sense that Megan likes the spotlight too and could be a bit too pushy for their liking.
Kate had about 10 years of dating William to learn the ropes and be sure she could cope with it all. She also had no job of her own and seems to be more retiring and not the type to push herself forward.
So I don't know - Meghan just doesn't seem to me to be ideal, quiet, obedient royal wife material, and in that family you have to be. Otherwise they can eat you up and spit you out.

I agree with all you say apart from the part Ive highlighted, I think she will push herself forward too much,she will take the title Princess Pushy off Princess Michael ,the way she over spoke and run the interview at their engagement while holding on to Harry with both hands was a turning point for me, i saw then there just something not right with her

[GoldHeart]

Originally Posted by chuff me dizzy

I agree with all you say apart from the part Ive highlighted, I think she will push herself forward too much,she will take the title Princess Pushy off Princess Michael ,the way she over spoke and run the interview at their engagement while holding on to Harry with both hands was a turning point for me, i saw then there just something not right with her

I'm not sure tbh Chuff .
But I did notice that she was more outspoken in the interview ,but she's use to the limelight . I don't think I've watched any of her acting roles,so I don't really know .

And she touched Harry alot PDA . And on their royal visit back in December in Nottingham she was spending alot of time with the crowds talking, which again is a bit different .

I guess time will tell , I'm not a big royal fan . And it does annoy me when anything with the royal family takes centre stage in news programmes .

Her life will never be the same again that's for sure, and even though she was already in the spot light , being apart of the royals is on another level and is a huge responsibility.

Even Kate got cold feet when she met William at University , didn't they break up at one point?. I think she found it overwhelming . But clearly she's fitting in now . But I wish people would stop going on about what hat or dress she's wearing .

But anyway we'll see what happens with Megan . All the best to them .

[chuff me dizzy]

Originally Posted by GoldHeart

I'm not sure tbh Chuff .
But I did notice that she was more outspoken in the interview ,but she's use to the limelight . I don't think I've watched any of her acting roles,so I don't really know .

And she touched Harry alot PDA . And on their royal visit back in December in Nottingham she was spending alot of time with the crowds talking, which again is a bit different .

I guess time will tell , I'm not a big royal fan . And it does annoy me when anything with the royal family takes centre stage in news programmes .

Her life will never be the same again that's for sure, and even though she was already in the spot light , being apart of the royals is on another level and is a huge responsibility.

Even Kate got cold feet when she met William at University , didn't they break up at one point?. I think she found it overwhelming . But clearly she's fitting in now . But I wish people would stop going on about what hat or dress she's wearing .

But anyway we'll see what happens with Megan . All the best to them .

I love Dianas boys ,HATE Charles and his bitch ......... I knew nothing about Meghan until she got with Harry, but its maybe a mother gut feeling I've got about her,but she just rubs me up the wrong way and i fear trouble ahead with her

[jet]

Originally Posted by chuff me dizzy

I agree with all you say apart from the part Ive highlighted, I think she will push herself forward too much,she will take the title Princess Pushy off Princess Michael ,the way she over spoke and run the interview at their engagement while holding on to Harry with both hands was a turning point for me, i saw then there just something not right with her

I was referring to Kate not pushing herself forward Chuff, not Meghan, who I think will be too pushy for the 'Firm'.

[chuff me dizzy]

Originally Posted by jet

I was referring to Kate not pushing herself forward Chuff, not Meghan, who I think will be too pushy for the 'Firm'.

Yes Kate has class she steps back,but Meghan wont be like that IMO but time will tell

[Marsh.]

Originally Posted by jet

I was referring to Kate not pushing herself forward Chuff, not Meghan, who I think will be too pushy for the 'Firm'.

I don't think she'll be pushy at all.

She just has more self confidence than Kate does, who is more reserved.

Doesn't seem anything more than a British/American difference to me. We are more reserved than our cousins across the pond.

[GiRTh]

What can Ann possibly know about Megans 'attitude'. What an odd thing to say.

[GreenIce]

Well it seems the "trouble" has already started. Meghan's half-sister in the paper today saying "If you can spend $75,000 on a dress, you can spend $75,000 on your dad". The father is cash-strapped it seems.

[jet]

Originally Posted by GreenIce

Well it seems the "trouble" has already started. Meghan's half-sister in the paper today saying "If you can spend $75,000 on a dress, you can spend $75,000 on your dad". The father is cash-strapped it seems.

Oh dear. The royals have been free of the 'sensationalised' headlines for quite a few years. It will all begin again now - the last thing the 'Firm' want.

[Cherie]

I took background to mean acting career, not sure what her attitude is

[Robodog]

Lots of people feel the same way, something's not quite settled and they can;t quite put their finger on it.

Watching Harry's body language around her: he is almost a bit edgy, unrelaxed.
Certainly not natural and easy like William and Kate are with each other.

Hmmm

Time will tell

[Tom4784]

When it comes to the Royals, people seem to like to present their internal fan fiction as fact.

Harry fancies Kate because they were laughing in a video or photo? Meghan made the fatal mistake of holding onto Harry with two hands so this signifies that she isn't a lady suited to the Royal Family? 'Oh, she's an actress, she's obviously acting at all times.'

Honestly, it's ****ing BIZARRE.

[GoldHeart]

Originally Posted by Dezzy

When it comes to the Royals, people seem to like to present their internal fan fiction as fact.

Harry fancies Kate because they were laughing in a video or photo? Meghan made the fatal mistake of holding onto Harry with two hands so this signifies that she isn't a lady suited to the Royal Family? 'Oh, she's an actress, she's obviously acting at all times.'

Honestly, it's ****ing BIZARRE.

Thankyou
I'm not even a Royal fan but I hate the double standards, it's ok for Prince Charles to marry his mistress? . But people doubt Meghan because she's previously been married FGS ! .