[Zizu]

Originally Posted by Cherie

Zizu, I understand where you are coming from, you can post in her fan thread and nothing negative can be posted in there so maybe you can still participate but only in a positive way?

It is a discussion forum so like Love Island positive and negative posts are going to appear

Fans threads are for gushing compliments.. thats not really my style . I have just posted some nice photos of her

Sadly I have spent 90% of my energies DEFENDING something Ali has said or done or disagreeing with nasty , unjust comments aimed at her - in other threads


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[Parmy]

Originally Posted by Zizu

Fans threads are for gushing compliments.. thats not really my style . I have just posted some nice photos of her

Sadly I have spent 90% of my energies DEFENDING something Ali has said or done or disagreeing with nasty , unjust comments aimed at her - in other threads


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What housemates do you not like zizu.?

[caprimint]

Originally Posted by Niamh.

In general I agree with you but that particular discussion wasn't bad at all, at least Marcellos part in it anyway(for once), as others have said he wasn't the only one participating in it but he seemed to be the only one that Ali had the issue with afterwards.

Marcello seemed to be the one leading the conversation though and he was the one who made the particular comment about "ejaculating" which is what I think she was uncomfortable listening to

Originally Posted by vesavius

And a person fully has the right to not like that, but pretending that her job depended on it was cheap and manipulative. Shutting down conversations that you don't personally like is toxic and controlling. A normal person in a shared situation simply chooses to not be part of it for the couple of minutes it is happening.

Instead of sitting in judgement of the conversations of others, she might want to actually try and be interesting enough to have a conversation of her own with people she likes (if she actually likes anyone in there, which I doubt).

But, yeah, he didn't say anything wild... These conversations have happened literally every year. Emma's jokes have been way way more crude (but I still like her).

This wasn't about what he said though,not really. It was about it being a long five minutes since Ali had shut someone down and she loves doing that way too much.

We don't know too much about the specific details of her job so it's difficult for anyone else to judge that fairly. She wasn't telling him to never speak about it, she just said she was uncomfortable being forced to be there when that conversation was taking place and to talk about it with his friends or others who he knows wants to partake in it, I don't think that's entirely unreasonable?

She's always (and was always) chatting with Lily, Nathan, Daze, Dean, Izaaz and even Khaled lately too, but considering she's got the most threads about her on here then she must be pretty interesting for you to keep discussing

She comes across as though she doesn't hide/hold back her thoughts and feelings and always says exactly what she thinks. It's normal human behaviour rather than "wanting to shut people down"

Originally Posted by Kazanne

So why doesn't she have that conversation with Lily ? as she is also gross and annoying,maybe she doesn't like men.

The worst Lily has done is pick her nose It's not even comparable. Ali gets on well with Nathan, Dean & Izaaz so saying she has an issue with men is a stretch just because she's had disagreements with a couple of them

[BBXX]

Didn't he say he was an ejactulation machine or words to that effect. Ali said "It's fine when it's just in the house as I can walk away". She's freely admitting that everyone is free to say what they want and she'll remove herself, but on this occasion, she couldn't and was asking for a favour on not discussing such things while she was in the situation she couldn't remove herself from. I honestly think that's completely fair enough.

We know, though we haven't really been shown, how Marcello is. I can't imagine how it must be biting your tongue on the way he speaks to and about women for so long. About time someone finally called him out.

[Parmy]

Is there a possibility the real Ali is locked up in a cupboard somewhere and this is one of her "clients"

[jones89]

Originally Posted by Beso

Is there a possibility the real Ali is locked up in a cupboard somewhere and this is one of her "clients"

You know whaaaa?.. we’re gonna have to look into this cause that didn’t even cross my mind

[Parmy]

Originally Posted by jones89

You know whaaaa?.. we’re gonna have to look into this cause that didn’t even cross my mind

https://www.google.com/imgres?imgurl...M&vssid=mosaic

[Crimson Dynamo]

I will just leave this here

really nasty..

[bots]

it's not nasty at all

[Maru]

I can't wait til she's voted out.

[FromBB8]

Why is it every time someone tries to stand up to Ali she either tries to close the conversation down and/or walk away?

[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by FromBB8

Why is it every time someone tries to stand up to Ali she either tries to close the conversation down and/or walk away?

Because she knows they're right probably

[GoldHeart]

Originally Posted by FromBB8

Why is it every time someone tries to stand up to Ali she either tries to close the conversation down and/or walk away?

Because she loves the sound of her own voice,she tells people they're not letting her speak ...whilst she also rudely cuts them off ,when they're trying to defend themselves. She's a self righteous sour face ,with a superiority complex.

[GoldHeart]

Originally Posted by FromBB8

Why is it every time someone tries to stand up to Ali she either tries to close the conversation down and/or walk away?

It's hard to believe she's meant to listen to people's problems in her day job, she's too dismissive & is always shutting down people who disagree with her. Unless she only had time for people when she's getting paid,I guess her clients are just files and numbers to her.

[Gusto Brunt]

Originally Posted by Maru

I can't wait til she's voted out.

She's getting on my ***s, too.

[GlitterUK]

I think given what has happened to Ali personally she should be more aware of how she comes acts herself to others - she is bullying Khaled. Not seen the highlights or what they show but the parts I have seen she should be pulled up for bullying. Khaled has handled himself amazingly. He has remained calm and compassionate to her feelings and is always willing to give her another try. He is someone who just wants her to like him but she doesn't.

Looks like she could be self employed to me looking at her on the below site. States sessions from £100? be not taking referrals at present due to being on bb etc.

[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by GlitterUK

I think given what has happened to Ali personally she should be more aware of how she comes acts herself to others - she is bullying Khaled. Not seen the highlights or what they show but the parts I have seen she should be pulled up for bullying. Khaled has handled himself amazingly. He has remained calm and compassionate to her feelings and is always willing to give her another try. He is someone who just wants her to like him but she doesn't.

Looks like she could be self employed to me looking at her on the below site. States sessions from £100? be not taking referrals at present due to being on bb etc.

Thing is just because someone is a psychologist doesn't mean they're good people or actually suited to that profession either. They're just human beings like everyone else

[Zizu]

Originally Posted by GlitterUK

I think given what has happened to Ali personally she should be more aware of how she comes acts herself to others - she is bullying Khaled. Not seen the highlights or what they show but the parts I have seen she should be pulled up for bullying. Khaled has handled himself amazingly. He has remained calm and compassionate to her feelings and is always willing to give her another try. He is someone who just wants her to like him but she doesn't.

Looks like she could be self employed to me looking at her on the below site. States sessions from £100? be not taking referrals at present due to being on bb etc.

Wow

She really has gotten under your skin!!

All that super sleuthing just to hopefully find some more faults with her to be shared with your cronies ..

Shame


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[vesavius]

Originally Posted by Zizu

Wow

She really has gotten under your skin!!

All that super sleuthing just to hopefully find some more faults with her to be shared with your cronies ..

Shame


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You do understand that the entire point of watching BB and coming to this forum is to discuss HMs, right?

[Swan]

She's a textbook modern day liberal.

[GoldHeart]

Originally Posted by vesavius

First, really bored of her constantly attempting to control the speech of others.

Secondly, I hated when she used her job as a shield and pretended to not be 'sensitive'.

She clearly, in her own words, admits to Marcello that she was offended by his conversation. It wasn't about her job, it WAS about her being offended. why even lie like that? More manipulation.

This is the 'blunt honesty' some love her for? Nah.

Marcello was not 'telling her off', he was attempting to express to her that she had handled the situation badly but, as ever, queen ****ing Ali is never wrong and always perfect. In her head at least.

"I don't think that this conversation is helpful because I don't think that you are going to agree with me"... there we have it, Ali in a nutshell. It's only every 'helpful' if you bend the knee to her.

perfectly put

And just as I predicted, Marcello is getting the brunt of it . Despite the fact Rosie & Dean were also involved in the chitter chat. Notice how Dean & Rosie nod and go along with Ali all the time .

Like Marcello said,he wasn't even aiming the conversation at Ali ,but once again block of ice takes it upon herself to be offended and to take everything so personal. No idea why she keeps bringing up her profession...if she's that worried & uncomfortable about what her job/ work colleagues think ... maybe she's on the wrong TV show.

It's also not fair of her to put that guilt on other housemates, she cannot police other people's conversations. And Marcello was right...it was an ' adult conversation ' .

Ali is condescending, stuck ,rude & extremely, controlling
& patronising & miserable . Any time anyone tries to clear the air with her ,or to explain themselves ... it's like banging their head against a brick wall.

And my goodness didn't she love smashing Marcello's glass portrait, like she had achieved something big .. spiteful vindictive woman .

[vesavius]

Originally Posted by GoldHeart

And my goodness didn't she love smashing Marcello's glass portrait, like she had achieved something big .. spiteful vindictive woman .

Did you get the impression that when she finally loses it she goes 100% ballistic?

It was a little eye opening.

[FromBB8]

Originally Posted by vesavius

Did you get the impression that when she finally loses it she goes 100% ballistic?

It was a little eye opening.

I do wonder, and that's why she shuts down or walks away from conversations. Because she feels herself losing control so wants to take a step back. I would have more respect if she said that - "Can we talk later as I just need time to myself" - rather than shutting conversations down as she is.

[vesavius]

Originally Posted by FromBB8

I do wonder, and that's why she shuts down or walks away from conversations. Because she feels herself losing control so wants to take a step back. I would have more respect if she said that - "Can we talk later as I just need time to myself" - rather than shutting conversations down as she is.

Indeed

[GoldHeart]

Originally Posted by vesavius

Did you get the impression that when she finally loses it she goes 100% ballistic?

It was a little eye opening.

I was expecting her to explode,but it seems her automatic reaction is to just be cold & manipulative. Oh and when she really wants to make someone feel bad ,the moaning waterworks ( haven't actually seen tears ,but you know what I mean) come out .... like when she was threatening to leave the other week.