[GoldHeart]

Originally Posted by thesheriff443

Famous or unknown, no one is beyond question and if as a grown man you want young boys to sleep in your bedroom it will raise questions.

No one is stopping anyone listening to his music it’s just not being played on the bbc.

This story has not and may never come to a close but life goes on regardless.

Its not just the BBC , h&m decided to remove his clothing while they continue to sell rock star clothing who have been rumoured to sleep with underage girls.

Starbucks stopped playing his music , Simpsons got rid of his episode and accused him of "grooming" . And i think Spotify removed him aswell .

[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by GoldHeart

Its not just the BBC , h&m decided to remove his clothing while they continue to sell rock star clothing who have been rumoured to sleep with underage girls.



Starbucks stopped playing his music , Simpsons got rid of his episode and accused him of "grooming" . And i think Spotify removed him aswell .

The BBC haven't actually stopped playing his music

[Brother Leon]

Worth watching as a counterpoint to the Leaving Neverland documentary.

[Cherie]

Originally Posted by Brother Leon

Worth watching as a counterpoint to the Leaving Neverland documentary.

very interesting, especially the timeline regarding the alleged Cirque de Soleil booking and subsequent dropping for Robson and also Safechucks claim that he refused to testify for Jackson second time round when he was never called by the defence

[Beso]

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.the...nd-person.html

[Beso]

https://www.google.com/amp/s/themich...l-jackson/amp/

[Nancy.]

Michael Jackson biographer claims he’s uncovered evidence that could disprove child sex abuse allegations

https://www.nme.com/news/music/micha...mpression=true

Speaking to the Mirror Online on Friday (March 29), Smallcombe made reference to the fact that Robson said the abuse started when his family went to the Grand Canyon and he stayed behind with Jackson at Neverland. But Smallcombe claims that Robson’s mother, Joy, told a court under oath in 1993 that Robson actually joined them on them trip.

[Nicky91]

James Safechuck's story also proving to be a bit false here and there


WTF was this was all for attention making that leaving neverland documentary

[user104658]

Originally Posted by Nancy.

Michael Jackson biographer claims he’s uncovered evidence that could disprove child sex abuse allegations

https://www.nme.com/news/music/micha...mpression=true

Speaking to the Mirror Online on Friday (March 29), Smallcombe made reference to the fact that Robson said the abuse started when his family went to the Grand Canyon and he stayed behind with Jackson at Neverland. But Smallcombe claims that Robson’s mother, Joy, told a court under oath in 1993 that Robson actually joined them on them trip.

We already know that the Robsons testified in Jackson's defense in 1993 how is this in any way new information. Honestly some people must make Christmas so easy for their families. Put last year's gift in a different box and wrap a bow around it, and it becomes a brand new present.

[Kazanne]

Originally Posted by Toy Soldier

We already know that the Robsons testified in Jackson's defense in 1993 how is this in any way new information. Honestly some people must make Christmas so easy for their families. Put last year's gift in a different box and wrap a bow around it, and it becomes a brand new present.

Is there any need to be so condescending ?You may know the ins and outs of a ducks arse about MJ but not everyone does,Nancy is just posting information, you don't have to read it,but some of us want to.

[Nancy.]

Originally Posted by Kazanne

Is there any need to be so condescending ?You may know the ins and outs of a ducks arse about MJ but not everyone does,Nancy is just posting information, you don't have to read it,but some of us want to.

Exactly. Thanks Kazanne.

[user104658]

Originally Posted by Kazanne

Is there any need to be so condescending ?You may know the ins and outs of a ducks arse about MJ but not everyone does,Nancy is just posting information, you don't have to read it,but some of us want to.

So there are people posting here who didn't know that the Robsons testified in Jackson's defense in the past and have now said differently? ... I mean OK but that was sort of a huge part of the documentary so I'd have to question whether or not they watched it?

[Nancy.]

Originally Posted by Toy Soldier

We already know that the Robsons testified in Jackson's defense in 1993 how is this in any way new information. Honestly some people must make Christmas so easy for their families. Put last year's gift in a different box and wrap a bow around it, and it becomes a brand new present.

Well despite you taking up residence in here, you're not the only one posting, so perhaps you should refrain from speaking on other people's behalf.

The information I (or we) post is for those who don't know much about MJ and the accusers, so therefore we will CONTINUE to post information regardless of whether you like it or not.

[Nicky91]

Originally Posted by Nancy.

Well despite you taking up residence in here, you're not the only one posting, so perhaps you should refrain from speaking on other people's behalf.

The information I (or we) post is for those who don't know much about MJ and the accusers, so therefore we will CONTINUE to post information regardless of whether you like it or not.

Youtube video

to back up your information, here's a video of safechuck's lies

[GoldHeart]

Originally Posted by Nancy.

Well despite you taking up residence in here, you're not the only one posting, so perhaps you should refrain from speaking on other people's behalf.

The information I (or we) post is for those who don't know much about MJ and the accusers, so therefore we will CONTINUE to post information regardless of whether you like it or not.

Did you see the Liam McEwen video? , Brandi & Taj were being interviewed.

And I read about the biographer , but the thing is all the information & facts are out there but they get ignored . I guess what's needed is a mainstream documentary on tv going through all the lies & inconsistencies , seen as tv is people's best friend .

Google is also their friend but they can't be bothered to do a 5 minute research .

[Nicky91]

oh shocking breakthrough, tbh i believe this immediately, and this proves they made stuff up for attention

[Beso]

I WATCHED THE NEW SAVILLE THING WITH LOIUS THERROUX ON NETFLIX LAST NIGHT....

he was interviewing one of the girls saville abused, she is now about 50 yr old....she laughed as she recounted the abuse.

[Cherie]

Originally Posted by parmnion

I WATCHED THE NEW SAVILLE THING WITH LOIUS THERROUX ON NETFLIX LAST NIGHT....

he was interviewing one of the girls saville abused, she is now about 50 yr old....she laughed as she recounted the abuse.

There is literally no correlation between the Saville case, where 13 police forces ignored complaints until his death, and MJ who was investigated by the FBI for 10 years during his life

[Nicky91]

Originally Posted by Cherie

There is literally no correlation between the Saville case, where 13 police forces ignored complaints until his death, and MJ who was investigated by the FBI for 10 years during his life

just Parmy trying to bring that story back up too i guess

Saville (for me personally) well what i've read about him, he definitely seemed like the type to be a real creep

[Beso]

Originally Posted by Nicky91

just Parmy trying to bring that story back up too i guess

Saville (for me personally) well what i've read about him, he definitely seemed like the type to be a real creep

or perhaps pointing out that survivers of abuse do infact laugh or smile when they recount the abuse...just like robson and safechuck and this lady last night.


if you doubt me, watch it your bloody self.

[Beso]

Originally Posted by Cherie

There is literally no correlation between the Saville case, where 13 police forces ignored complaints until his death, and MJ who was investigated by the FBI for 10 years during his life

except both cases left the two perpertrateurs dead, but many victims still alive, who, from what i have witnessed, laugh at innapropriatte moments as they recount the abuse they suffered.

[user104658]

Originally Posted by Cherie

There is literally no correlation between the Saville case, where 13 police forces ignored complaints until his death, and MJ who was investigated by the FBI for 10 years during his life

Yes but several times throughout this thread, it has been insisted that Robson and Safechuck "must by lying" and are "laughing in the face of people who have been abused" because they smile and laugh at times during a Q&A. Screenshots of them smiling were posted as "proof" of them being liars.

[AnnieK]

The only thing I am finding hard with this thread is that if I am reading this correctly, some people think members who have voiced their views that they believe MJ did in fact have inappropriate relationships with boys are basing their beliefs on one particular documentary. For me, at least, that is not the case. My views are from many years of thinking his relationships with children were not healthy, for anyone involved

[Beso]

Originally Posted by AnnieK

The only thing I am finding hard with this thread is that if I am reading this correctly, some people think members who have voiced their views that they believe MJ did in fact have inappropriate relationships with boys are basing their beliefs on one particular documentary. For me, at least, that is not the case. My views are from many years of thinking his relationships with children were not healthy, for anyone involved

Same.

[GoldHeart]

Originally Posted by AnnieK

The only thing I am finding hard with this thread is that if I am reading this correctly, some people think members who have voiced their views that they believe MJ did in fact have inappropriate relationships with boys are basing their beliefs on one particular documentary. For me, at least, that is not the case. My views are from many years of thinking his relationships with children were not healthy, for anyone involved

But MJ had a different upbringing , and he never invited these kids to his bedroom plus he also made sure the parents were OK with things.

You can think it's innapropriate , nobody is defending that as such but we're more understanding to it .

Plus if you look further into it you'll realise he didn't have the childhood he wanted & missed . He spent his childhood touring & in music studios , he looked outside and saw kids playing in the park and he wanted to do the same but he couldn't.

Also if you research you'll see a lot of these kids were fans that wanted to spend time withMJ ,he wasn't always at Neverland and all 4 accusers had opportunistic parents that kept stalking MJ. So its false that MJ kept pursuing kids if anything it's the other way round.

Yes MJ invited them into Neverland which was a mistake, but loads & loads of families were invited . it was like a theme park for disadvantaged kids. It was innocent & far from sinister . But I will agree MJ took risks & he was naive .


Jay Leno & Chris Tucker distanced themselves from the Arvizo family as they could see through them before it was too late ,whereas MJ took longer to realise .

Also some kids were disrespectful and ran around his home going through his belongings& making a mess .