[Liam-]

I fail to see how people are seeing the two as bad as each other

[bots]

Originally Posted by Liam-

I fail to see how people are seeing the two as bad as each other

i don't think anyone is saying that, but on a scale of crap to average, they both sit in the crap category

[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by bitontheslide

i don't think anyone is saying that, but on a scale of crap to average, they both sit in the crap category

Pretty much

[Nicky91]

Originally Posted by bitontheslide

i don't think anyone is saying that, but on a scale of crap to average, they both sit in the crap category

its basically do the american people want another 4 years with the massive failure that is Trump, mr i solely think about economy in coronacrisis

and if he is voted in another term, he'll continue as it goes right now, only thinking about economy

also he and his family did NOT wear a mask at that debate night


at least Biden has the decency of showing the right example to the public by wearing a mask

[caprimint]

Originally Posted by Nicky91

its basically do the american people want another 4 years with the massive failure that is Trump, mr i solely think about economy in coronacrisis

and if he is voted in another term, he'll continue as it goes right now, only thinking about economy

also he and his family did NOT wear a mask at that debate night


at least Biden has the decency of showing the right example to the public by wearing a mask

Trump already spoke about how he only wears masks when he feels it's in an appropriate situation, not for the sake of it to appeal to the public.

[bots]

Basically Trump is a turd and Biden is a turd with a bow tie on

[Oliver_W]

Whoever told Biden to keep staring right into the camera as he speaks needs to be sacked. It was skin-crawlingly creepy. I could practically feel him sniffing my hair.

[Tom4784]

Originally Posted by Oliver_W

Whoever told Biden to keep staring right into the camera as he speaks needs to be sacked. It was skin-crawlingly creepy. I could practically feel him sniffing my hair.

I don't think anything Biden did was noticeable, mainly because the draft/tax dodger kept screeching like a tantrumming child over everyone.

[Oliver_W]

Originally Posted by Dezzy

I don't think anything Biden did was noticeable, mainly because the draft/tax dodger kept screeching like a tantrumming child over everyone.

To be fair it was a waste of time for both, neither came across "well" enough to win anyone over, or "bad" enough to put someone off who might have voted for them anyway.

Dodging the draft is a redundant thing to moan about, no-one should be forced into the military.

[Tom4784]

Originally Posted by Oliver_W

To be fair it was a waste of time for both, neither came across "well" enough to win anyone over, or "bad" enough to put someone off who might have voted for them anyway.

Dodging the draft is a redundant thing to moan about, no-one should be forced into the military.

You can't 'both sides' this to make Biden look just as bad as Trump, there was a clear worse side here and that was the side that refused to denounce white supremacy.

The draft is relevant because Trump uses the military as a prop, and it's just another example of him flouting the law. I disagree with drafts but many of the people who he admonishes were, like him, old enough to be drafted and did so.

He dodges taxes, he dodged the draft, he dodges denouncing hatred.

[Oliver_W]

Originally Posted by Dezzy

You can't 'both sides' this to make Biden look just as bad as Trump, there was a clear worse side here and that was the side that refused to denounce white supremacy.

I'm not "both sides"ing, I'm ... "neither sides"ing neither one of them shined or bombed. Biden looked creepy, Trump looked ... like Trump it was a mess, neither deserve to be voted in.

[user104658]

Originally Posted by Oliver_W

To be fair it was a waste of time for both, neither came across "well" enough to win anyone over, or "bad" enough to put someone off who might have voted for them anyway.

Dodging the draft is a redundant thing to moan about, no-one should be forced into the military.

There is actually SOME evidence that Trump has put off a few of his less committed supporters by failing to distance himself from actual white supremacist groups. Publicly, anyway. They may well still put an X in the box - they're just less willing to announce their allegiance, but given how heavily influenced elections are by tribalism these days, that's actually quite important.

[Oliver_W]

Originally Posted by Toy Soldier

There is actually SOME evidence that Trump has put off a few of his less committed supporters by failing to distance himself from actual white supremacist groups. Publicly, anyway. They may well still put an X in the box - they're just less willing to announce their allegiance, but given how heavily influenced elections are by tribalism these days, that's actually quite important.

I've not seen that bit - I was just randomly clicking through on youtube, I guess that bit wasn't one I landed on

Dodgy if true, but tabloids are notorious for making a headline out of half a quote.

[bots]

Trump is behind in the polls, so logically he wants to win over those who have switched back to the dems ... which is believe it or not, married middle aged women .... his performance the other evening would not win them back

[arista]

[arista]

[caprimint]

For every vote Trump "lost" he also gained one, so there's really no point in that argument

Trump will still win by a landslide

[Liam-]

Nobody will have watched that debate and decided to vote for Trump off the back of it

[arista]

Originally Posted by Liam-

Nobody will have watched that debate and decided to vote for Trump off the back of it

Not True
CNN HD had a group of undecided voters
and after that Debate more said they will now vote Trump

[bots]

Originally Posted by arista

Not True
CNN HD had a group of undecided voters
and after that Debate more said they will now vote Trump

doesn't mean that they will

[Liam-]

Anybody that is going to vote for trump, has already decided to vote for Trump, because he doesn’t appeal to new voters, the only people he appeals to are his already devoted core base of Trumpers, hence why he refuses to condemn organisations like Proud Boys and white supremacy in general

[arista]

Originally Posted by Liam-

Anybody that is going to vote for trump, has already decided to vote for Trump, because he doesn’t appeal to new voters, the only people he appeals to are his already devoted core base of Trumpers, hence why he refuses to condemn organisations like Proud Boys and white supremacy in general

Keep Up
he has now

[Beso]

44mins 40 seconds into the debate..

Biden, after making point one says.

"And number two"

Trump replies instantly,

"You're a number 2"


Trump wins the debate in my opinion.

[Beso]

49.50 seconds and biden stumbles his words again and says stalking instead of talking..he then licks his lips with his slithering tongues.

[Liam-]

These are the people Trump refuses to condemn, because they’re his core supporters, he thrives on the violence and the hatred