[Northern Monkey]

I'd say JK Rowlings opinion on terrorism is about as valid as mine.Now get her talking about writing and she's an expert.
Politicians probably do get more info on the subject than the average Joe.

[Kizzy]

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

im not the one posting peoples tweets as actual articles and posting links to an Alt-left troll site

you are

perhaps you need to adjust the reflective aspect of your monitor?

And that's acceptable when you link to random you tubers rant fests though and Britain first, as 'proof' of your theories?...

:/

[Kizzy]

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk...-a7797826.html

[Crimson Dynamo]

Originally Posted by Kizzy

And that's acceptable when you link to random you tubers rant fests though and Britain first, as 'proof' of your theories?...

:/

when?

if I have linked to either I would imagine I linked to other news sources or the stories were widely reported in the media

to claim I use either a fraction as much as you and your sources is pure fantasy

[Kizzy]

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

when?

if I have linked to either I would imagine I linked to other news sources or the stories were widely reported in the media

to claim I use either a fraction as much as you and your sources is pure fantasy

sputnik... breitbart ...

[Vicky.]

Horrible bastard. Its just idiocy to blame all Muslims for what a few of them do. Should all white people be blamed now because of this twat?

[Crimson Dynamo]

Originally Posted by Kizzy

sputnik... breitbart ...

Stormfront, Ukip jayden

Spoiler:

[arista]

London Terrorist van attack
identified as Darren Osborne
from Cardiff
his home has been searched.

http://news.sky.com/story/suspect-in...borne-10920634

[Beso]

Originally Posted by Vicky.

Horrible bastard. Its just idiocy to blame all Muslims for what a few of them do. Should all white people be blamed now because of this twat?

He is obviously not right in the head.

[Crimson Dynamo]

a welshman

[Crimson Dynamo]

Originally Posted by parmnion

He is obviously not right in the head.

yep and

Security Minister Ben Wallace said the suspect was not known to the security services, and was believed to have acted alone.

crazy lone wolf like the Jo Cox chap

[Tozzie]

Originally Posted by UserSince2005

It's a hate crime and not a terrorist attack

anyone who causes terror among the public is a terrorist, people were terrified, terrorist he was

[Crimson Dynamo]

"Dianne Abbott was up from her sick bed and able to identify this as a certain terror attack within three hours of it occurring. When usually, 'it is not wise to speculate'."

source Katie Hopkins in her DM article today

[Northern Monkey]

Originally Posted by Brother Leon

Got to lock this extremist preacher up.

You do know that Tommy Robinson is'nt actually far right?Many of his political views are more left wing.
When he setup the EDL two core principles were "non racist,non violent" but far right factions got in and splintered off.He is classed as a "race traitor" by actual Nazis and far right activists.He was wanted by them.
One reason he started that group was that he was seeing friends around Luton suffering at the hands of Islamists and people he went to school with being radicalised on British streets.
He and a black friend went to a Britain First meeting but he refused to join as they wouldn't let his friend join because he's black so he set up the EDL to be non racist but to protest against Islamic extremism.
He left the EDL because it was taken over by racists.
He gets constantly slandered in the press and parts of things he says taken out of context and many believe it until they actually listen to him.
He also brings to light alot of things that the papers and news never tell us like the scale of the Pakistani child sex gang problem.There are loads of cases on going and in court and we are kept in the dark about it by mainstream media.

[Northern Monkey]

Originally Posted by Tozzie

anyone who causes terror among the public is a terrorist, people were terrified, terrorist he was

I agree.He is a terrorist no doubt.

The worrying thing is that this is beginning to turn into a war.
One side attacks and the other eventually starts retaliating and that is very dangerous.

[Crimson Dynamo]

Originally Posted by Northern Monkey

I agree.He is a terrorist no doubt.

The worrying thing is that this is beginning to turn into a war.
One side attacks and the other eventually starts retaliating and that is very dangerous.

to be fair this is happening in a couple of cities, 99.9% of the UK are unaffected

some twat in Finsbury park is not the UK, its a dick in a really horrible part of London (one of the many)

[Northern Monkey]

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

to be fair this is happening in a couple of cities, 99.9% of the UK are unaffected

some twat in Finsbury park is not the UK, its a dick in a really horrible part of London (one of the many)

For now.
How long before Islamists hit us again and then another twat retaliates?
If the Islamic terror problem isn't solved then these things are only going to keep happening more and more.It's only going to grow.I can't see an end and that's worrying.That strikes me as the birth of a war.
This man who ran those people over at the mosque was a monster,A monster created by extremists.
Let's hope these people start seeing sense and not retaliating against the wrong people anymore before it gets out of hand.

[Withano]

Originally Posted by Northern Monkey

You do know that Tommy Robinson is'nt actually far right?Many of his political views are more left wing.
When he setup the EDL two core principles were "non racist,non violent" but far right factions got in and splintered off.He is classed as a "race traitor" by actual Nazis and far right activists.He was wanted by them.
One reason he started that group was that he was seeing friends around Luton suffering at the hands of Islamists and people he went to school with being radicalised on British streets.
He and a black friend went to a Britain First meeting but he refused to join as they wouldn't let his friend join because he's black so he set up the EDL to be non racist but to protest against Islamic extremism.
He left the EDL because it was taken over by racists.
He gets constantly slandered in the press and parts of things he says taken out of context and many believe it until they actually listen to him.
He also brings to light alot of things that the papers and news never tell us like the scale of the Pakistani child sex gang problem.There are loads of cases on going and in court and we are kept in the dark about it by mainstream media.

That's actually pretty interesting that he's disassociated himself with the edl. I didn't know that.
When it comes to tommy, I personally think, and I think a lot of people probably feel the same, that he is a guy that opposes one form of extremism very strongly. And when a person only opposes one form of extremism (i.e. Islamic) you must presume that there are racial/hateful implications.
I looked through his tweets - because I wasn't expecting to see him make a 20 minute video shouting at white right wing men - to see what he had to say about this event, and the closest he got to shaming it was asking people to compare this (presumably the death toll) to Manchester. The guy is scum. He's aggressive and honestly his stories about having multiple converted friends is either obvious bull**** or he's the unluckiest man in the universe!
Does make you wonder if this event would have happened at all if edl and Britain first didn't exist. Organisations that preach literally nothing but hate can't leave a good mental impression on anybody. Good for him for disassociating himself with that I guess. He hasn't done too much to prove he's much different though, to me.

[Northern Monkey]

Originally Posted by Withano

That's actually pretty interesting that he's disassociated himself with the edl. I didn't know that.
When it comes to tommy, I personally think, and I think a lot of people probably feel the same, that he is a guy that opposes one form of extremism very strongly. And when a person only opposes one form of extremism (i.e. Islamic) you must presume that there are racial/hateful implications.
I looked through his tweets - because I wasn't expecting to see him make a 20 minute video shouting at white right wing men - to see what he had to say about this event, and the closest he got to shaming it was asking people to compare this (presumably the death toll) to Manchester. The guy is scum. He's aggressive and honestly his stories about having multiple converted friends is either obvious bull**** or he's the unluckiest man in the universe!
Does make you wonder if this event would have happened at all if edl and Britain first didn't exist. Organisations that preach literally nothing but hate can't leave a good mental impression on anybody. Good for him for disassociating himself with that I guess. He hasn't done too much to prove he's much different though, to me.

I think it's not shocking to him because he's been predicting that this was going to start happening for a long time.Although i did see an interview recently where he called this guy "a monster".
As for him knowing people who've been radicalised i think i can probably believe it due to the extent of the problem in Luton.People getting converted on the street etc,Hate preachers living there and high tensions.There is alot of unreported shiz going on.Most of the country don't see this stuff as thankfully it seems concentrated to certain areas but how long before it grows more widespread is the worry.

[MTVN]

He left the EDL a few years ago now and for a time he was gaining a modicum of respectability by working with the Quilliam foundation which works with the Muslim community to tackle extremism. It was soon after then that he was invited to address the Oxford University union and he did actually give quite a measured and thought-provoking speech there. I don't think he works with Quilliam anymore though and recently he's got back into anti-Islam street activism with EDL-type movements like Pegida. He does always choose his words quite carefully and he doesn't explicitly advocate violence but he is still a dangerous man

[DemolitionRed]

I live in East London where Muslims live en masse. I'm in walking distance of one of Londons biggest mosques. I live and work amongst these people. I even speak Farsi and yet, never once have I met a Muslim who has outwardly shown me he/she's radicalized. Muslims are generally quite reserved with people until they understand that you're not going to judge them on their faith and so I think its highly unlikely that Robinson personally knows people. What he probably knows are the Muslims who have come up against him at rallies and shouted something in support of radicalization. I'd be tempted to use a similar weapon if I saw a group of people throwing around false accusations about me.

[Mystic Mock]

Originally Posted by Vicky.

Horrible bastard. Its just idiocy to blame all Muslims for what a few of them do. Should all white people be blamed now because of this twat?

We will get blamed by some of their community.

[Tom4784]

Originally Posted by parmnion

He is obviously not right in the head.

Few terrorists are.

[the truth]

known terrorists should be taken off the streets...known violent thugs should get longer prison sentences and known psychopaths should also be locked away under close supervision

[arista]