[user104658]

Originally Posted by Dezzy

Maybe if you're in charge but a manager won't appreciate you turfing people out for no good reason.

That depends on how deeply apathetic that manager has become towards the business ...

[Amy Jade]

I feel bad that you were smirking that he got told off. Poor guy he must have felt like crap

[Beso]

Originally Posted by Amy Jade

I feel bad that you were smirking that he got told off. Poor guy he must have felt like crap

I smirk when I'm nervous inside for someone else sometimes..maybe it was more that than the smugness I felt at actually winning in a pub in london..but I bloody won.

Usually when I'm out I just smirk at the barmen or women when she gives me the price of the smirnoff and coke they have just poured me...this was a nice change for me.


I'm bloody annoyed nobody has actually mentioned the thief/student.

[user104658]

Originally Posted by parmnion

I'm bloody annoyed nobody has actually mentioned the thief/student.

Parm that's because everyone knows you actually took your drink to the toilet and forgot, thought it was stolen, then found it sitting on another table where you left it in the first place

[Beso]

Why would I buy 2 drinks for the price of one (ten quid) go to the toilet straight after they were made and only take one with me?


It does sound like that's what happened but that's not how it happened...fair enough if I hadn't been talking to the barstaff i would have turned with both in my hands...but in was talking to them so wouldn't go to the toilet with one and leave one on the bar.

[SherzyK]

Poor barman

[Beso]

Originally Posted by SherzyK

Poor barman

Exactly, not very good at all..he had good banter though

[Beso]

I also at the tender age of 17 worked in a French restaurant in Claygate surrey called les allouettes with a guy called alyn Williams for 6 months...you can find him at alynn Williams at the Westbury in Mayfair london...I can get you a table if you want dezzy as I'm still in touch with him and treated my mother to his taster menu last year...he doesn't permit spitting and neither did our boss way back in 1987....That's where I met michael a spell and his carrots.

[bots]

life is honestly too short to be getting upset at losing a drink

[Beso]

Originally Posted by bitontheslide

life is honestly too short to be getting upset at losing a drink

It really isn't when you feel like london rips you off everytime you go out..


I stood up for myself and something I believe should happen all the time if your drink is stolen in a pubs premises and actually managed to talk them round to.my way of thinking...they could easily have thrown me out and have more people suffer at the hands of the pathetic thief, but even in london, and even with all those other customers they would get that day and night they didn't. ...because at the time that's what the three of us had to deal with at that exact moment of our 70-80 years of life...which isn't exactly that short, or not short enough that things like this should not be dealt with in the ten minutes of your life you are living in at the moment....ten minutes of your 70 to 80 years of life that were not wasted but in fact used to lift me, make me happy and has helped aid me into thinking london bar staff can sometimes be good and realistic...to me that wasn't wasted, seeing as I won and it only took ten minutes....



Coming on tibb day after day after day however for almost ten years now should be addressed a lot more than the ten minutes I took to make myself happy.

[Vanessa]

If I'm out for a drink I don't leave my drink unattended. You never know what someone could put in it.

[Marsh.]

Originally Posted by parmnion

He watched the vodka and coke when I went for a fag cause it was still there when I came back.

I thought it was 2 cocktails?

[Cherie]

Originally Posted by Marsh.

I thought it was 2 cocktails?

oh do keep up Marsh, the vodka and coke was pre cocktails

I worry for Parmy digestion, has he visited the 'how do you wipe your arse thread'

[Cherie]

Originally Posted by Vanessa

If I'm out for a drink I don't leave my drink unattended. You never know what someone could put in it.

apart from that I would worry someone would spit in it just for a laugh or something

[Marsh.]

Originally Posted by Cherie

oh do keep up Marsh, the vodka and coke was pre cocktails

Now listen the first line says he left 2 cocktails with the barman. I got confused.

Originally Posted by Cherie

I worry for Parmy digestion, has he visited the 'how do you wipe your arse thread'

[caprimint]

Originally Posted by Dezzy

Maybe if you're in charge but a manager won't appreciate you turfing people out for no good reason.

They don't care if it's one person because they're still gonna get loads of different people in there every day, especially in an area like Shoreditch, it's not like it's a local or something

[Marsh.]

Originally Posted by caprimint

They don't care if it's one person because they're still gonna get loads of different people in there every day, especially in an area like Shoreditch, it's not like it's a local or something

Yeah but they're not likely to look on it favourably if you're turfing paying customers out for no reason. I imagine most staff have a reason.

[Beso]

My new avi...my mum when I took her to my old friend alyn Williams restaurant in Mayfair, alyn Williams at the Westbury.


No spit involved.

[Marsh.]

Looks a lovely lady.

[Cherie]

Naw Parm what a softy

[Beso]

Originally Posted by Cherie

Naw Parm what a softy

She enjoyed her extra desert alyn brought out for her as well Cherie.

[armand.kay]

Originally Posted by parmnion

A drink that cost me 10 quid...the other one was the one I wanted as my free second one.


Just think about it...you could actually go out and get pissed for free at the expense of honest people....well not this one I'm afraid, this one will stop a pub in its tracks if he loses his over priced drink.

You spent Ł10 and just left it unattended? Worms in your brain?

[Beso]

Originally Posted by armand.kay

You spent Ł10 and just left it unattended? Worms in your brain?

It wasn't unattended, and I was the only person at the bar (apart from the manager and barman)when I went for a pee...now I remember I was only talking to the bar manager whilst having my vodka and coke...I then asked him to mind my drink while in popped out for a ciggie...he said you can take it with you..so I did...and had a good chat with the bouncers who introduced me to the cocktail offer....

So I finished my ciggie and walked in, downed the vodka and coke, and asked the "new" just starting his shift, along side the bar manager, barman what the offer was all about....

we laughed and joked etc etc.....then I picked what I wanted...plenty time for all this cause I was still the only person at the bar and the bar manager was serving a normal looking couple with slightly less charm and banter he had instantly given me.


So he poured I nodded he nodded I spoke as I nodded and he rather quetly admittedly, mouthed the words ok as I departed for my forced, by my ever weakening bladdered piss..


Came back up and there was about 4 more people at the bar and one less drink...1 ignorant barman, 1 bar manager pretending our friendly banter counted for nothing and me....dissapointed in them, me.

[Glenn.]

5 pages of this. Really?

I thought it was an unspoken rule that you don’t leave drinks unattended in bars etc?

[Vicky.]

Originally Posted by AnnieK

But his main responsibility is to serve drinks. How would you feel if a barman said "sorry mate, you'll have to wait to be served till some dude I dont know finishes in the bathroom as I've got to watch his drinks?"

All it takes is to go to serve someone else and someone could swipe your drink.

Sorry Parm, I don't agree with you on this. The moral is.....go before you buy or take your drinks with you, for me at least

Agree with this.

I also think if the bar was dead as it seems, rather than a nod you should just have..asked the barman if it was ok to leave your drinks. He would probably have put them beind the bar incase he was distracted, then gave them back when you came back. Problem solved. I was asked this kind of thing regularly, and it was never an issue plus the customers (usually women, men just randomly left drinks and went for wanders, where women were more careful for obvious reasons..) knew everything was fine.

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As for being able to just replace, or just chuck someone out or whatever..

It really depends. I have worked in very busy bar/nightclubs and also 'little old man' bars which were frequented by the same few drinkers day after day, and everything inbetween tbh. The clubs we would have been able to chuck anyone out for no reason, also would have been technically able to just replace drinks for randomers to avoid scenes and write down as spillage but we would have been fired for doing so if caught, would have been able to replace drinks to regular customers who moaned though as we had a little discretion with those who spent enough cash. Very quiet places, there was hell on for chucking people out regardless of reasons..even when one guy sat and pissed himself all over the bar seat..apparently I was too harsh for telling him to go home, I didn't even bar him which I really wanted to given I had to clean his mess up..but even throwing him out was wrong apparently In those bars, if a customer kicked up a fuss we would mainly be told to just replace too given it was literally the same like..8 men on rotation each day. Middle ones though, no replacements ever. And awkward customers were just chucked, no questions asked. As there was a steady enough stream of customers to replace and as TS said, generally getting rid of someone who causes a fuss will increase your take, not reduce it. Spillage was also very closely monitored there..like, they used to watch back random shifts just to make sure that nothing was being written as waste that wasn't