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Old 05-05-2023, 09:26 AM #1
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Labour overreacting to the results as usual. Haven't had our results here yet but I expect the Tories to have got a real pasting.
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Labour overreacting to the results as usual. Haven't had our results here yet but I expect the Tories to have got a real pasting.

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Confused the Tories are doing so badly, I thought they'd fixed the election by asking voters to show ID
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Confused the Tories are doing so badly, I thought they'd fixed the election by asking voters to show ID
Hmm, it's almost like people were stereotyping when they said that people who don;t vote Tory are more likely not to have any ID...
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Hmm, it's almost like people were stereotyping when they said that people who don;t vote Tory are more likely not to have any ID...
The thing is that it probably IS true (though not to the extent some might have claimed) and that suggests the true sentiment is even more disastrous for the Tories than the current panning they're getting would suggest.

I'm STILL not convinced we'll shake them off at the next GE though ... they'll have tricks up their sleeve to roll out for that.

Though Labour will likely be helped somewhat with Scottish votes now that the SNP have ****ing imploded .
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The thing is that it probably IS true (though not to the extent some might have claimed) and that suggests the true sentiment is even more disastrous for the Tories than the current panning they're getting would suggest.
Weelllllll, you need photo ID to claim benefits, so that must be why so many people were still about to vote non-Tory.
(Hey, others are stereotyping, so why can't i?)

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I'm STILL not convinced we'll shake them off at the next GE though ... they'll have tricks up their sleeve to roll out for that.

Though Labour will likely be helped somewhat with Scottish votes now that the SNP have ****ing imploded .
I think I read somewhere (or even worked out myself, can't remember!) that even if every Opposition party formed together, the Tories would still outnumber them. Even with the SNP kamakazeing, it's a massive hill to climb. Would need a bigger turnaround than Blair managed.

I think the probable outcome will be a squeak-through for the Tories, with a victory for Labour in the following one.

Especially if people are still whining about a party who's not in power shifting the theoretical things they might do if they were, on either side of a pandemic and getting involved in a war.
(Wahhhh, and Bregthit!!!)
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Weelllllll, you need photo ID to claim benefits, so that must be why so many people were still about to vote non-Tory.
(Hey, others are stereotyping, so why can't i?)



I think I read somewhere (or even worked out myself, can't remember!) that even if every Opposition party formed together, the Tories would still outnumber them. Even with the SNP kamakazeing, it's a massive hill to climb. Would need a bigger turnaround than Blair managed.

I think the probable outcome will be a squeak-through for the Tories, with a victory for Labour in the following one.

Especially if people are still whining about a party who's not in power shifting the theoretical things they might do if they were, on either side of a pandemic and getting involved in a war.
(Wahhhh, and Bregthit!!!)
That's the idea of having a parliamentary majority
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No you don't
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Ed is wasting time, LT

Sunak ignores him

General Election now due around October - Nov 2024

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NOC is a mess.

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Today.
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Then fking stop the boats, you idiot Maybe getting his ass handed to him in these Locals will give him a wake up call, that he actually needs to do the things that people want and that he says he will.
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Then fking stop the boats, you idiot Maybe getting his ass handed to him in these Locals will give him a wake up call, that he actually needs to do the things that people want and that he says he will.
He can not stop them
too many paying the Criminal Smugglers
They destroy their passports
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Starmer has done admirably in dealing with the findings and instructions from the Equalities commission inquiry.
It's one thing he's actually doing right.
Even that commission has praised his action on it.
Even to now signing off on its investigation.

People can deny that all they like and ignore the faults of the Cons.all they wish.

Antisemitism is NOT deep-rooted in the Labour Party.
The Equalities commission even stated that.
I as a Labour member and someone who abhors antisemitism would not stay in the party if it was deep-rooted.

It's amazing how those who hate Labour and call us in Labour as scum.
( Not that I'm bothered on that, as scum is the bad, waste or worst rising to the top, so we've learned that from the present Cons.)
That they seem to know more about the Labour party from their own prejudice against Labour..
Than we do and indeed the totally independent Equalities commission.

Obviously there's no reasoning with that personalised and general prejudice .
I'll stand with anything that the Equalities commision says.
As I was over the moon when they said they were going to fully investigate Labour to find the truth out.

I'd like now to see them do a similar one on the Cons on other unsavoury matters of prejudice they possibly have.

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Loads had the Wrong ID

And could NOT Vote

Went home, gave up.


That's a mess Joey

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Some of the outrage is very feigned this bloke was supposedly 'devastated', just not so devastated that he popped home to get his passport

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“This is exactly how Nazi Germany started.”

No it was far more than just an ID

that 1938 Germany pushed Forward.

As the World let Hitler

take over Poland, Austria and France
as well as other nations
by 1940 he was loving his trip in Romantic France
To sign the Take over in that
Symbolic Train Carriage.



Poor France
so weak,





[To many Germans – Adolf Hitler included – the signing
of the armistice in the forest of Compičgne was
the ultimate betrayal and a national humiliation.
To the French, it was one of their greatest
moments of triumph.]


https://www.history.co.uk/article/th...peace-treaties

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“This is exactly how Nazi Germany started.”

No it was far more than just an ID

that 1938 Germany pushed Forward.

As the World let Hitler

take over Poland, Austria and France
as well as other nations
by 1940 he was loving his trip in Romantic France
To sign the Take over in that
Symbolic Train Carriage.



Poor France
so weak,





[To many Germans – Adolf Hitler included – the signing
of the armistice in the forest of Compičgne was
the ultimate betrayal and a national humiliation.
To the French, it was one of their greatest
moments of triumph.]


https://www.history.co.uk/article/th...peace-treaties
I think it was the overthrow of the German monarchy and the introduction of the Weimar republic that kicked it off.

Starmer would love to get rid of the monarcy and then what would happen - we would have the rize of the Nazi party in Britain!

He must be thwarted

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"Starmer would love to get rid of"


NO


Tubby Starmer is very Royal Now

he wants to be elected

Nothing like Corbyn.

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NO


Tubby Starmer is very Royal Now

he wants to be elected

Nothing like Corbyn.
Did you know that Google has now banned the word Chubby

Tubby is ok but now not Chubby

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Blackpool was NOC
has now become Labour

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I don't actually have any particular issue with photo voting ID overall when it comes down to it - but there should have been a heavily advertised lead-in time of 5+ years and easy, free access to a valid form of photo ID first.

It does all feel like a bit of a return to the old "mandatory citizen ID card" stuff from years ago though, to be honest. WHich was scrapped, ironically, because the Tories didn't like it.
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Stratford -on -Avon
was Conservative
LibDems just took it over


East Cambridgeshire
No change - Stays Conservative.

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These poor areas now being controlled by idiot wokeist lib dems

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The BBC is projecting that if all of Britain had the chance to vote in local elections today - and had behaved in the same way as those who did - the share of the vote for each party would be as follows:

Conservative - 26%
Labour - 35%
Liberal Democrats - 20%
Others - 19%

The nine-point lead that Labour is projected to have over the Conservatives is the largest lead that the Labour party have recorded on our measure since losing power in 2010.
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