[arista]

Originally Posted by Dezzy

I just have no faith in people tbh, these past few people have basically shown me that both the US and the UK voters are akin to farm animals voting for the Slaughterhouse. I just can't see Biden winning over Trump.

You Are Most Wise Dezzy.

[Tom4784]

Originally Posted by arista

You Are Most Wise Dezzy.

Your beloved Trump is just too corrupt.

[The Slim Reaper]

Originally Posted by arista

You Are Most Wise Dezzy.

What do you feel are trumps biggest achievements during his first term?

[Swan]

I feel quite bad for US voters on the fence, just like 2016, two terrible choices yet again.

[The Slim Reaper]

Originally Posted by Swan

I feel quite bad for US voters on the fence, just like 2016, two terrible choices yet again.

1 terrible choice, and 1 disappointing choice aren't the same things.

[Swan]

Originally Posted by The Slim Reaper

1 terrible choice, and 1 disappointing choice aren't the same things.

Yeah i guess, but after 4 years of unrest im sure a lot of Americans are looking for some sort of stability, Biden doesn't really offer that. Trump is just a gimmick though, him not being a politician helped him before (after how badly the US has been let down my previous leaders), that same gimmick wont help him now.

[Tom4784]

Originally Posted by Swan

Yeah i guess, but after 4 years of unrest im sure a lot of Americans are looking for some sort of stability, Biden doesn't really offer that. Trump is just a gimmick though, him not being a politician helped him before (after how badly the US has been let down my previous leaders), that same gimmick wont help him now.

Biden basically offers a return to the status quo before the Trump administration. The one thing that Biden can probably offer is stability but at the cost of progress.

The best thing we can hope for is that Biden picks a great VP and that, if he wins, they'll end up taking over before long.

[Oliver_W]

Originally Posted by Dezzy

Biden basically offers a return to the status quo before the Trump administration.

Do Americans want that? In 2016 there was a real attitude for change. Trump and Bernie both (allegedly) offered change, whereas Hillary offered same-old-same-old.

Bernie would definitely steamroll Trump if he'd got the nomination, but I'm not sure "Samantha and Cletus" have changed enough to want to "go back" to the same-old-same-old ...

[Tom4784]

Originally Posted by Swan

I feel quite bad for US voters on the fence, just like 2016, two terrible choices yet again.

One is clearly worse than the other. Let's not engage in enlightened centrism and act like both sides are equally bad when they are clearly not.

[arista]

Yesterday the riot mobs did not have the Strength
to bring down a Brass Statue
of Jackson.
The Police stopped them.

[Liam-]

If he loses Trump is going to cause a civil war

[arista]

Trump off to another Rally today
at a Border Wall increase
Arizona.

[The Slim Reaper]

[Kizzy]

[arista]

Its 4:04PM in Phoenix
President Trump is Live

At a Turning Point Hanger.

"Students For Trump Rally"

[arista]

[caprimint]

Originally Posted by arista

Gahhhhhhhhh

[The Slim Reaper]

[Swan]

Originally Posted by The Slim Reaper

Colbert conducted himself terribly imo.

[The Slim Reaper]

Originally Posted by Swan

Colbert conducted himself terribly imo.

Why do you think that, and what do you think he should have done better?

[Tom4784]

'He conducted himself terribly! How dare he question someone on their bull****!'

[Swan]

Originally Posted by Dezzy

'He conducted himself terribly! How dare he question someone on their bull****!'

Not in the slightest, John Bolton admitted he made a mistake, admitted that after seeing how ridiculous Trump has been as President he wouldn't vote for him again. He was polite, not argumentative in the slightest, and was trying to answer questions put at him genuinely and explain his reasoning behind his voting, and how in hindsight he made a mistake. All Colbert did was mock him, undermined him, and didn't let him get his point across. Terrible attitude!

He made a mistake voting for Trump, he had to see with his own eyes what a joke Trump was/is, no need for Colbert to mock him and to discredit him from the outset.

[The Slim Reaper]

Originally Posted by Swan

Not in the slightest, John Bolton admitted he made a mistake, admitted that after seeing how ridiculous Trump has been as President he wouldn't vote for him again. He was polite, not argumentative in the slightest, and was trying to answer questions put at him genuinely and explain his reasoning behind his voting, and how in hindsight he made a mistake. All Colbert did was mock him, undermined him, and didn't let him get his point across. Terrible attitude!

He made a mistake voting for Trump, he had to see with his own eyes what a joke Trump was/is, no need for Colbert to mock him and to discredit him from the outset.

John Bolton refused to testify at Trumps impeachment because he had a $2million dollar book deal waiting for him to tell his story. He needs to be held to account.

[Swan]

Originally Posted by The Slim Reaper

John Bolton refused to testify at Trumps impeachment because he had a $2million dollar book deal waiting for him to tell his story. He needs to be held to account.

He wasn't held accountable for anything in that interview, just mocked and laughed at.

It doesn't look good to the people who voted for Trump in 2016, and who now regret it (and im sure there are many, many who know they messed up).

[The Slim Reaper]

Originally Posted by Swan

He wasn't held accountable for anything in that interview, just mocked and laughed at.

It doesn't look good to the people who voted for Trump in 2016, and who now regret it (and im sure there are many, many who know they messed up).

Maybe we need to stop worrying about offending people that voted for the openly racist, credibly accused rapist, and started shaming them. Mockery has always been one of the strongest political weapons in the toolbox.