[ScabbyMoreLike]

He's entitled to his creationist views but going "EH-ERRRRR!" everytime someone tried to discuss a less George W Bush style theory to how the universe came into being doesn't make me want him to win.

I've respected the fact that he hasn't been too OTT with his religious opinions during his time in the house but not letting anyone else talk about that particular subject makes me wonder how extreme he may be.

So if you want to stop Josie from winning, as I know many do, maybe voting for someone else other than Dave would be sensible. If you care...

[InOne]

He is the kind of person that makes Dawkins and Hitchins look like Gods.

[Livia]

I find Christians a little bit shouty-downy about the creationist/evolutionist question. Amazing really, in the face of so much scientific evidence.

[MTVN]

Originally Posted by Livia

I find Christians a little bit shouty-downy about the creationist/evolutionist question. Amazing really, in the face of so much scientific evidence.

Most Christians have come to accept evolution now though

[vesavius]

People are closed minded if they don't share Dave's beliefs, and they are just plain wrong if he dosent share theirs.

I thought we all knew this by now

[Livia]

Originally Posted by MTVN

Most Christians have come to accept evolution now though

Yes, you're right. I should have said "some Christians".

[ScabbyMoreLike]

Even if he's stubborn/ignorant/misguided enough to stick to the 'pure creationism' belief, I find the lack of tolerance off-putting. Isn't understanding of others meant to be at the key of Christianity?

[InOne]

Atheist: Who designed the designer?

Theist: God is was and always will be!

Atheist: Erm, yeah ok

[vesavius]

Originally Posted by ScabbyMoreLike

Even if he's stubborn/ignorant/misguided enough to stick to the 'pure creationism' belief, I find the lack of tolerance off-putting. Isn't understanding of others meant to be at the key of Christianity?

No, not really.

Dave will tolerate you, as he tolerates gays, in order to save you.

Whether you like it or not.

[ScabbyMoreLike]

Quote:
Originally Posted by ScabbyMoreLike
Even if he's stubborn/ignorant/misguided enough to stick to the 'pure creationism' belief, I find the lack of tolerance off-putting. Isn't understanding of others meant to be at the key of Christianity?

No, not really.

Dave will tolerate you, as he tolerates gays, in order to save you.

Whether you like it or not.

I fear you're right. Who will rid us of this troublesome monk?!

[Stacey.]

Agreed. I thought this too.

[Shasown]

Originally Posted by vesavius

No, not really.

Dave will tolerate you, as he tolerates gays, in order to save you.

Whether you like it or not.

Did he try to save Shabby Mario or Joevan?

[BJ]

Originally Posted by Livia

Yes, you're right. I should have said "some Christians".

It seems to be mainly born again christians

[Robertocarlo]

Originally Posted by ScabbyMoreLike

He's entitled to his creationist views but going "EH-ERRRRR!" everytime someone tried to discuss a less George W Bush style theory to how the universe came into being doesn't make me want him to win.

I've respected the fact that he hasn't been too OTT with his religious opinions during his time in the house but not letting anyone else talk about that particular subject makes me wonder how extreme he may be.

So if you want to stop Josie from winning, as I know many do, maybe voting for someone else other than Dave would be sensible. If you care...

I agree, what a plonker. Dave's of the same mindset that saw thousands burned at the stake for being Witches! Funny, how the church admits it got it wrong there (and about slavery) but somehow thinks it's so right about the Gay thingy (i.e. it's good to be a homophobe because God says so) and of course many now believe in that creationist bull sh*t.

[vesavius]

Originally Posted by Shasown

Did he try to save Shabby Mario or Joevan?

Dave's grooming technique takes time, he dosent rush things, but his views have been openly stated by him.

He dosent hate the person for being gay, but he sees the act as against his god and as a sin that they can be redeemed from and bought back into the light.

[BJ]

Originally Posted by vesavius

Dave's grooming technique takes time, he dosent rush things, but his views have been openly stated by him.

He dosent hate the person for being gay, but he sees the act as against his god and as a sin that they can be redeemed from and bought back into the light.

So Dave is patronising as well as backstabbing

[Malza]

The conversation they had this afternoon, when JJ pointed out that Dave is brainwashing his daughter worries me even more now, knowing he is in denial of the evolution

[mrlimbo]

Its all quite funny reading all your posts slamming someone for not believing what you believe in , quite ironic really , be careful peeps , this is how Fascism started !

[ElProximo]

It amazes me how so many people believe in the Gnostic creation myth called 'evolutionism' and especially in the 21st century in light of so much overwhelming scientific enlightenment,
but,
It does show the astonishing power of BBC evolutionist propaganda and what happens when school children are raised with no other options,
but having said that:
Even though more and more people are rejecting the 'theory of evolution' and many surveys showing 'Creationism' on the rise in the UK, Poland, USA etc,
still,
even still I don't think anyone ought to 'shout down' those who still believe that there was some sort of great grandmother bowl of inorganic soup that mated with a shaft of lightning which turned into hawks, worms, grass, T-Rex, giraffes etc.
It is quite common.
yes, of course belief in this evolution myth led to slavery, racism, mass murder etc,
but,
that is not what the average believer agrees to anymore.
David should just be cool and thankful he knows better.

[InOne]

Originally Posted by ElProximo

It amazes me how so many people believe in the Gnostic creation myth called 'evolutionism' and especially in the 21st century in light of so much overwhelming scientific enlightenment,
but,
It does show the astonishing power of BBC evolutionist propaganda and what happens when school children are raised with no other options,
but having said that:
Even though more and more people are rejecting the 'theory of evolution' and many surveys showing 'Creationism' on the rise in the UK, Poland, USA etc,
still,
even still I don't think anyone ought to 'shout down' those who still believe that there was some sort of great grandmother bowl of inorganic soup that mated with a shaft of lightning which turned into hawks, worms, grass, T-Rex, giraffes etc.
It is quite common.
yes, of course belief in this evolution myth led to slavery, racism, mass murder etc,
but,
that is not what the average believer agrees to anymore.
David should just be cool and thankful he knows better.

Stop being 'rediculous. You know what you're typing is bollocks

[Patrick]

He was such a bellend when he was like 'Shush, No Shush' to JJ when he said about evolution.

Who the ****** does he think he is?

I for one agree with JJ.
Evolution is far more true than ******ing God and Adam and Eve.

[ElProximo]

Originally Posted by InOne

Stop being 'rediculous. You know what you're typing is bollocks

You should know what I typed is realistic and reflects trends.

[Malza]

Originally Posted by Patrick

Evolution is far more true than ******ing God and Adam and Eve.

Reminds me that Dave today also said he truly believes in Mary being a virgin being pregnant.

Josie was arguing with him about that topic as well

[stonedape]

I only came here to read ElProximo's inevitable convoluted mess criticizing evolution. It was worth it

[Shasown]

Originally Posted by Malza

Reminds me that Dave today also said he truly believes in Mary being a virgin being pregnant.

Josie was arguing with him about that topic as well

She could have been. Heavy petting can result in sperm release without ejaculation. Sperm can be transferred from outside the body to inside a females body and fertilise an ovum. Unlikely as ******* but possible.