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04-09-2014, 06:37 PM | #26 | |||
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confirmed the 25 year old was Chubby , Dressed in Black and saying "my lighters .... the Cats.... the Cats" he may been on Meds or Drugs Last edited by arista; 05-09-2014 at 11:34 AM. |
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04-09-2014, 06:52 PM | #27 | |||
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Pretty scary
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04-09-2014, 06:56 PM | #28 | |||
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04-09-2014, 07:08 PM | #29 | |||
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It's really scary.
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04-09-2014, 09:36 PM | #30 | ||
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This is clearly horrific but seriously, was there really any need to point out that it's "probably not terrorism"? why would it be terrorism?? Are we, as a nation, now such collectively ****ing thick little sheep that it's expected that people will scream "OH NOES A TERRORISM!!" simply because they've encountered a terrorism-related buzzword?
Actually, no need to answer that. A company-wide memo was sent around at my work stating that any "unidentified packages" noticed anywhere (country wide...) must not be touched, because the threat level has been raised so they might be bombs planted by terrorists. For ****ing ****'s sake. There's got to be a likelihood of something like 0.00000000001%. MAYBE IT'S A BOMB OOOORRRR probably it's Hovis and a pint of milk. |
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04-09-2014, 09:41 PM | #31 | |||
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^ i think it more has to do with the fact that we are on red alert for terrorism
and then we've already had to deal with two beheadings over the past 2 weeks... people might just link the two.
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04-09-2014, 09:51 PM | #32 | |||
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04-09-2014, 09:53 PM | #33 | |||
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^ Britain First is a horrifically embarrassing group on FB that is just full of small minded racist idiots.
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04-09-2014, 10:00 PM | #34 | |||
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04-09-2014, 10:20 PM | #35 | |||
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i thought it was at first. I've been waiting for something like this to happen for a while.
Wouldn't surprise me if it happens again soon.
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04-09-2014, 10:28 PM | #36 | |||
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He decapitated a cat too
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04-09-2014, 10:38 PM | #37 | |||
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How many times in recent years have you heard this term and what was it in reference to? Far from being thick or sheep it is a logical conclusion given the growing tension over the last week. Those memos have circulated around workplaces for years, it it important to remain vigilant especially if your workplace is a possible target. Whatever the likelihood it costs nothing to keep your eyes and your ears open.
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04-09-2014, 11:28 PM | #38 | ||
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tragic story ...i cant bear to read the gory details..........
ps never liked london, worst part of the uk |
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05-09-2014, 07:09 AM | #39 | ||
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My work place is realistically NOT a possible terrorist target. That's my point. The memo is completely and utterly paranoid and stupid. It's stopping people from just getting on with their lives WITHOUT FEAR and giving terrorists absolutely everything that they want. The next time I see an abandoned Morrison's bag in my workplace, I'm going to film myself opening it. Carelessly. With my face. I am that sure that it won't "be a bomb". Or perhaps the cunning hiding place of a machete wielding Muslim. As for how many times I've read about decapitation and dismemberments in recent years? Too many. Off the top of my head (excuse the pun) : a head found on a beach, head in a freezer, body cut to pieces in a suitcase, and a poor mentally disabled woman decapitated by two junkies in a flat "for a laugh". It's not common of course but it happens, and it's usually not suspected to be Islamic terrorism, because it OBVIOUSLY ISN'T. But yeah... Manic paranoia successfully spread. Terrorists 1, stupid British public 0. |
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05-09-2014, 08:05 AM | #40 | |||
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Just heard this woman was 82,bless her,how awful.
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05-09-2014, 08:23 AM | #41 | |||
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The Sun says he was an Islam convert, he's beheaded 2 cats and this poor lady....so so sad
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05-09-2014, 11:37 AM | #42 | |||
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05-09-2014, 12:03 PM | #43 | |||
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To engage the public and request their support in counter terrorism, industrial espionage and being aware generally of suspicious behaviour has been requested many times as far back as WW1... Being aware of a potential threat isn't living in fear... being ignorant to the fact there is a threat is scary. I don't appreciate it being alluded to that those who are vigilant and aware of the threat are 'stupid', radicalisation of homegrown disenfranchised young people is real and the impact on communities and society as a whole immense. You stick your head in that carrier bag, make sure you remove it from the sand first.
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05-09-2014, 01:21 PM | #44 | ||
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The idea that we all need to be extra vigilant and on the lookout for explosives throughout the day is also ludicrous. Like seeing people visibly **** themselves every time they saw a black person sneeze during the "Ebola outbreak". Which is, of course, no more or less contained now than it was two weeks ago, but y'know... It's not too skaywee anymore because it's on page 7 now and beheading and bombs are in the headlines, so that's the scary thing now innit? Again, it all plays right into that paranoia and fear culture, which all too often then ends up spiraling into xenophobia and casual racism, further alienating individuals and strengthening ACTUAL terrorist rhetoric. |
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05-09-2014, 02:22 PM | #45 | |||
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An already twisted individual, let's look at that how do people get twisted... what is the process.. If terrorism in the guise of radicalisation to extremest ideology isn't an immediate threat how are western British Muslims persuaded to leave, train and return? I'm going to ignore your section on the Ebola outbreak as it's not relevant here. Whether or not some uninformed or ignorant people blame all Muslims for the actions of extremists is no reason to not be vigilant and aware that there is a threat, it need not impact on your day to day life... it just asks that you are open to the fact it can and has happened.
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05-09-2014, 03:53 PM | #46 | |||
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This is horrendous, utterly shocked me to the core. Not saying that where I live is "nicer" than London as everywhere has their problems, but I'm really glad I live somewhere "small" where something like this happening is almost unthinkable. Poor, poor lady. R.I.P.
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05-09-2014, 04:00 PM | #47 | |||
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If this beheading had happened at any other time, other than a RED ALERT for terrorism, I'm sure a lot more people would not think it's terrorism.
I don't think it makes the UK stupid for thinking it was a terrorist attack. It's good to be aware that this type of stuff can happen. It would be naive to think that this never happens.
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05-09-2014, 04:11 PM | #48 | ||
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I'm not being naive or saying that terrorist attacks don't happen. I'm just saying that it's frankly bizarre that news sources have to point out, in cases like this, that it's "probably not related to the terrorism alert level". That it has to be, pointed out that it's highly unlikely for there to have been a complex, multi-layer terrorist cell plot to murder an old lady and some cats. This is continuing and perpetuating an illusion of constant danger where there is (effectively) none. You are more likely to crash your car and die driving home, or suffer from random cardiac failure right this very second, than you are to be killed or injured in a terrorist attack. "red alert" or not. |
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05-09-2014, 04:57 PM | #49 | |||
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Nothing from the Police , yet.
I think he is mental case of a 25 year old who got inspired by ISIS could be on meds or drugs. Not a Terrorist The Police had to Taser him |
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05-09-2014, 05:09 PM | #50 | |||
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From ITV1 London News
A man viewed the crazy 25 year old going towards him he said it was like he was looking through me. Then the 25 year old ran as police were chasing him. Before that 82 year old was hacked to death he had killed a cat. The 82 year old run a Local Cafe every day with others from her family |
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